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Old 10-14-2008, 09:28 PM
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I have a 96 dodge advenger es that i replaced the distributor in it still won't spark everything hooked up i just can't figure out what sensor went and where yes it has fuels and yes the distributor is good b/c its brand new so any ideas im open
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:35 PM
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Check the relays ...
When you say it has fuel , did you check fuel pump for voltage ??? Do you hear it kick on ???
Did you check for voltage on the distributor ???
I'm guessing the fuel or ASD relay
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:58 PM
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i checked fuel and asd they are both fine fuel pump kicks on the distributor is not sendin spark through the wires and the timing belt aint the best but its fine before it died the temp gauge got up high put not to the over heat mark but when the car shut off it went back down to normal and it has anti freeze in it and presure idk what happened
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Old 10-15-2008, 06:33 PM
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well we think we got it the power to the computer is not strong enough quick fix jumper wire to the batt.
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Old 10-15-2008, 07:46 PM
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Easy with the straight power to the battery. A sudden spike and the ECU will be fried.
A heat issue usually makes me think of the CPS...then again, I blame that for every non-start issue. lol
If you're getting low voltage to the ECU, you could have bigger issues. One thing to note is that the coolant temp sensor will keep the motor from firing up if the sensor "thinks" the motor is too hot. Since the gauge indicated a high heat issue, you may want to change that sensor. Also be sure that the fan(s) kick in when the needle gets above your gauge's normal range (all cars are not the same, even the same cars).

So, the two things I recommend are the CPS and temp sensors and remove the jumper as soon as possible. If it is a voltage issue to the ECU, the fix isn't to jump it, but to find the voltage draw. I know time is of the essence, but the time will lengthen and the headaches will get bigger if the ECU fries.
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I'd check the battery for a weak/dead cell and the charging system as well
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hey thanks bad venge it was the batt. we had it hooked up to another car with the trottle half way and its only gettin 9.5 volts but it almost started with the computer jumped to the jumper cables so were puttin the new batt in here in a few and she should start but my avenger is my baby but im gettin another car just in case she breaks again man its been a week im ready to drive
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It was just a guess , when you said not enough voltage ....
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well take that back we think we have pin pointed the problem to the pcm we tested one wire that was sapose to be .05 ohms and it was .03 ohms so we are gonna replace the pcm and hope to god the new plugs aren't flooded
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okay so we are totally done with the car as soon as dodge sends me a mitsu distributor b/c napa's distributors are **** and it takes 4 until u get a good one just to let everyone know make good friends with dodge dealer ship employees u get a distributor for 713 instead of 1020
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so i got it fixed the tensioner threw the bearings out and melted the timing cover so we got the parts and she should be runnin monday night but the 2.5 is not an interferance motor so we are all good
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WRONG the 2.5 IS an interference motor .... 3 teeth off is doom to the valves
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umm well i have 3 teachers that worked for dodge and they all said non interferance motor they said the 2.0 is and they were famous for it but it only jumped two teeth but if it is still im fine there is nothin hittin and it has good compression on 2,4,6 so i think it will be fine
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Funny EVERYONE of the 2.5's on any of the other three forums I'm on they are destroyed when the timing belt goes ...
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Funny EVERYONE of the 2.5's on any of the other three forums I'm on they are destroyed when the timing belt goes ...
Yup, I was going to comment on that last night, but was too tired.
The 6g73s are interference motors. If the pistons are out of time enough, they will hit the valves and vice versa.
I suggest taking the front three plugs out and checking the piston heads for ANY signs of collision.
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we did we took 2 4 and 6 plugs out and it had good compression and it cranks like it wants to start we don't hear anything hittin and it only jumped 2 teeth so i think its fine b/c the compression wouldn't be good on 2 if the valves were all ****ed up b/c if it hit one it deff hit 2
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okay well she runs fine engine mount was a bit of a pain in the a$$ but she is runnin fine thought there might have been a problem with it when we got it started and pulled an engine code for rear bank lean but sumone for got to hook a spark plug wire back up so we got it hooked up and she ran like a dream so all valves are okay and so what but im glad to have her back not drivin her for two weeks she feels funny but it wont take long for me to get use to her again thanks bad venge and silvercoupe97 u guys were alot of help and let ppl know about this post when they have a similar problem and the part that took the timing belt the water pump it was biding up and i have seen a great change in gas milage with these new plugs i put in champion iridum plugs the teacher thought the voltage was wrong wit the plugs b/c they use so much less voltage
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