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Old 08-17-2008, 04:31 PM
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Question 1989 Dakota V6 Missing/Hesitation

I'm servicing my friend's 1989 truck for her since she's letting me borrow it and I'm doing some routine maintenance. Spark plugs and wires were replaced last year and all fluid levels are good to go. It was running great until the other day when it just started missing at idle and acceleration. I re-checked all the plug wires and plugs and they are in great condition. I even replaced a cracked PCV hose and reconnected another one as well that was loose, but it didn't help. It appears to be like the spark and/or fuel is just cutting out. The spark plugs were all fine (no signs of fuel saturation due to missing spark) and I'm just not sure what to do/check next.

Under part throttle acceleration it misses and bucks pretty badly at times, but when I floor it while it's happening, it appears to go away.

Any suggestions? I'd really like to fix this for her. Thanks!
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:37 PM
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Could be an EGR going, check the codes see what pops up. when the EGR gave out on my '95, it felt like it was losing fuel, but a simple code read put that fear to rest, EGR will be code 32, I believe the '89's will let you read 'em. If not the EGR, could be the fuel pump, it's common on these to go out, or injector/carb issue (not sure if '89 is carbed or TBI)
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:36 PM
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I get the following set of CEL flashes when I do the key switch on/off 3 times...

1 2 3 4 3 3 1 5 5 5
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:29 PM
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You can find this link in the FAQ in this section. http://dodgeforum.com/forum/general-tech/8717-service-engine-codes-for-obd-engines.html
Before you fix anything dubble and tripple check it. Disconnect the battery, for a few mins. then reconnect. This will rest the comp. Then run the truck up to temp and see which ones come back on.

You have code 12, 34, 33, 15, 55

12 Direct battery input to PCM was disconnected within the last 50 key-on cycle(Normal)
34 Speed control Solenoid circuits
33 A/C clutch relay circuit
15 No vehicle speed sensor signal
55 End of error messages
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:35 PM
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How do all those tie in to each other? It seems like a bunch of random codes that would/could be set off by only one real (electrical) problem. I just have to figure out what that is.

Any guesses just based off these codes?
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Old 08-20-2008, 01:32 AM
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Any ideas? I would lean toward it being the speed sensor since there are two error messages for those. However, how would that make the car miss at idle? That doesn't make sense to me. Or, even if it was the AC clutch relay circuit. Nothing is adding up here to the car missing, hesitating, and randomly cutting out.
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Old 08-20-2008, 02:21 AM
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Did you rest the computer like I sugested. Sometimes it will save the code for 3-4months or more. So If one connection had some water in it at one time that cased a code it will still be there. SO its always good to reset the comp. Then run the truck and recheck the codes.
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Old 08-20-2008, 02:31 AM
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I did unhook the battery for about a half hour then reconnected it back. It is still throwing codes but it appeared as if they may be different than before. I'll have to run it up to temp tomorrow and check again.
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Old 08-23-2008, 04:19 PM
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Just replaced the fuel filter and it seemed to get rid of 90% of it. It still has some random hiccups. Is this expected when just replacing the filter?
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Old 08-23-2008, 04:28 PM
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Oops, never mind. It's back to missing and hesitating again.

The weird thing now is, at idle it runs perfectly smooth. I revved it through all the RPM's and it's smooth as can be. HOWEVER, once I put it into drive, it starts running like crap.

What's going on here?
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Old 08-23-2008, 06:12 PM
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When I had the same issue the fuel filter seemed to have fixed it for a while just like you said but it again went back to its missing.

I think I might have fixed what ever my problem was, but I honestly can't tell you what I did. The wires to the crank sensor were replaced, and I had a new crank sensor. But that didn't seem to do it. Somewhere in that time period it seemed to become a heat issue. I put in a new T-Stat, and if I keep it out of OD its just fine (but gets way too hot after about an hour on the freeway) and a new radiator is on the way.

Sounds like it doesn't like being under any sort of load. Unless I'm just throwing out a load of BS lol. I'm no expert, just going off my experience.

does the v6 use a kegger style intake like the v8? Could the plenum gasket be shot? How is your fuel millage and oil usage?

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Old 08-24-2008, 07:00 PM
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Well, fuel mileage is about 170 to a tank. Not sure if that is good or not b/c this is not my truck and I haven't been driving it for its life. I'm not sure what a kegger style intake is, though. It seems to use up about half a quart of oil every 500-700 miles or so, which isn't super great but at the same time, even when flooring it, there is no smoke out of the exhaust like it is burning it excessively.
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:03 AM
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mine (1994) was doing that , and i changed the coil and it was fine
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:36 PM
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Sounds like it could either be the coil, distributor, or plug wires (arcing when under load).
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Old 02-23-2012, 01:54 PM
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I drive a 1989 Dodge Dakota, 2 wheel drive with the 3.9 liter V-6. I am and have been experiencing the same thing since the start of the colder weather here in the North. What I have found is I narrowed it down to the error code 34. Which is your speed control vaccuum or vent control solenoid circuit) I have replaced the fuel filter, my TPS (throttle positioning sensor), and map and non of the following have fixed the issueso that leaves it to the CODE 34, or perhaps a O2 SENSOR or even a issue with the TORQUE CONVERTER it only the biggest loss of power occurs when putting a load on the motor and tranny while driving, Park and Neutral have plenty of acceleration but drive and OD something causes it to lose power to the wheels at different times temps and climates. It is Extremely bad when it is cold and warming up. Once to temp though it gets better but still losses power to wheels at time to time.
NOW THE ISSUE boils down to the CODE 34 and the problem I am running into which is that once you get this far is how to locate the SPEED CONTROL COMPONENTS in the truck. Dodge says there is a stepby step process you can follow to fix it and it is somewhere here online but I cant find it anywhere so here I am getting fellow Dodge fans inpute as well as expertice. Anyone that can help any further would be greatly appreciated. And hope I also helped to some degree with others experiencing this problem.
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Old 02-23-2012, 01:59 PM
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I also replaced my plugs wires cap rotor and coil and it is still giving me the same issue. The Manifold issue is a good idea but wouldnt you have oil antifreeze mix in you radiator if it were bad from the water and oil being able to mix throuogh the bad gasket ? And the crankcase wires may be where this speed control vac and vent issue may be located as well so that might be a lead towards the right direction.
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Old 07-14-2012, 11:52 PM
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Het guys I have 1990 3.9 v6 2wd that also has the heat issues and lack of power at shifting. My Dakota is an automatic so I have to let up on throttle before it will shift up. This is a problem that seems to come and go. Anyone have luck with this?
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Old 07-15-2012, 12:34 AM
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Guys I thought it might be helpful to say this happens more in the afternoon then early morning hours. And truck just passed smog.
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