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Old 11-23-2011, 09:11 AM
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Removed the a/c compressor off the Hockey Lifted 5.2 and finally got the non ac belt from Rock Auto, not very familiar with these belts. What do you slacken off to get this belt installed?
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Old 11-23-2011, 09:29 AM
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If I remember right it doesn't work that easily. You will need an AC Delete pulley to use as a mock up pulley and use the AC belt. Like this one http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...38297_0_15373_
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Old 11-23-2011, 12:57 PM
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Well that is not the news we wanted to hear . . . we already got the a/c delete belt from Rock Auto. Maybe we will try Plan B . .
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Since I've done this myself I'll throw my 2 cents in.
You do not need a delete for your AC since all it really needs is a shorter belt. If the one you got from Rockauto is to long then if you want to keep it a delete is an option. But IMO the most cost effective way is to go to your local parts store and test a few belt lengths to get it how you want it. I'm not sure what length of belt I put on my truck when I got rid of my AC compressor, somewhere around 90" I believe. Since as far as I know there is no way to adjust your pully/tensioner locations.

I'll post some pictures tomorrow if you want if you want to see mine. Can't right now as its dark outside.
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Old 11-25-2011, 12:00 AM
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Wasn't AC an option? So isn't there at least a belt specifically for lack of AC? I mean..if not there is a diagram under my hood that shows the belt for and not for AC so it seems like it wouldn't be hard to get a belt specifically for that.
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Old 11-25-2011, 08:26 AM
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Melody, that is EXACTLY what we thought . . . we bought the non AC belt and it is too short, we can't get it on.
Rabid, pics would be really helpful if you can find the time.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:57 AM
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Well damn that sucks lol and of all things...a belt makes a big problem haha. Lets figure this out cause I was considering doing this.
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The problem is probably the brackets. You may need the non AC brackets to shift it all in the correct locations.
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Old 11-25-2011, 03:50 PM
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Crazy, I hope you are right, we just came back from the wrecking yard but we couldn't bring the bracket home because he wanted to close early, we are going back in the morning. He has a '94 full size Dodge 5.2 with compressor removed and the same size belt we have works slick. On the opposite side he has a (factory) non a/c van, 5.2 and the bracket really looks like the one we might need. Going to take it off in the morning and I hope it will work, I really like it because where the bypass hose is now, it is hidden under the bracket but with this one the hose is wide open. By the way . . . . this guy thinks there is no other truck but a full size truck and he is very opinionated about that. He does not even have one Dak in the yard and won't even talk to you about them. lol.
On the other hand . . . at least he is a Dodge boy.
Yeah, Melody, who would have thought all this aggravation over a belt!
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Old 11-25-2011, 06:39 PM
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Lol right. I had enough problems just finding a good one that wouldn't squeal and that was too much haha
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I'll throw in a bit more info. The belt that most part stores have listed for the Non AC Dakota is to short flat out because I had that issue right off the bat to. I had to go an inch or two longer in the end(Hopefully the parts stores near you have a bit of a selection length wise). No other modifications were needed here is some pictures of my set up.


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As you can see all that is really different in the belt route is with the AC gone the belt goes straight from the idler pulley to the power steering pulley.
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Old 11-26-2011, 03:52 PM
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Rabid, thanks a lot for posting the pictures. We got the factory non a/c bracket today and it all went together good. It Works
We aren't close to any parts stores that have a big inventory that we could look for different size belts, seems like they have to order in almost anything you want so for us, most of our parts comes from Rock Auto. The only difference that I like about the non ac bracket is that you can get to the bypass hose so easy.
One of pictures shows both brackets and the other pic shows it installed. Today was first time we fired it up since we put the hockey pucks in and everything seems to be OK except the brake light is on so maybe we broke a brake line, will have to check on that.
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Glad to hear you got it all figured out
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I first saw the Non AC bracket a few months ago, and I believe you can make one by sawing off the AC part of your existing cast aluminum bracket....
And, I don't know if it was correct, but the one I saw had the ribbed part of the belt running against the idler pulley surface....
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Old 11-27-2011, 08:14 AM
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We posted pictures but guess they were too big or something? The non ac bracket has the idler pulley in just a bit of a different position to make the belt work. Will try to downsize the pics and post again.

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Correct, like I stated before the bracket shifts the alternator in a different place than the AC bracket.

So your choices are to use the AC delete pulley or get the Non-AC bracket.

Here is one quick picture from www.allpar.com
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non ac bracket, I have a pic, but can't edit it, or upload it, might be time to wipe this computer clean of all the extraneous software and start over...
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