New axles 5 lug conversion ?
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07-08-2015, 08:21 PM
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New axles 5 lug conversion ?
hey guys i managed to pick up a 8.25 axle with a disc set up on it already 
but it did come out of a jeep so its a 5x4.5 bolt pattern so obviously i want the front to be that to so i have a better choice of wheels. now my truck is 4x4 so i did some research and found out that i might be able to use a hub bearing off a liberty or a nitro ? if any one has any info on this i would love to use this axle thankyou.
but it did come out of a jeep so its a 5x4.5 bolt pattern so obviously i want the front to be that to so i have a better choice of wheels. now my truck is 4x4 so i did some research and found out that i might be able to use a hub bearing off a liberty or a nitro ? if any one has any info on this i would love to use this axle thankyou.
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07-08-2015, 08:35 PM
what year is your truck? I have a 87 and its 5x4.5. Matter of fact, I have a set of jeep wheels on it now. The 8.25 rear you picked up, what width is it? I thought the jeeps were more narrow then the Dakota.
FWIW I picked up an explorer 8.8 rear with disc, I plan to use in mine some day but I will have to use spacers or offset wheels. Its about 3 in. narrow.
FWIW I picked up an explorer 8.8 rear with disc, I plan to use in mine some day but I will have to use spacers or offset wheels. Its about 3 in. narrow.
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07-09-2015, 01:13 PM
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07-09-2015, 04:54 PM
Yes, you said in the orig. post its 4x4 but you never said what year it is. FWIW I believe the 87-90 have the 5x4.5 wheel pattern. But I have no idea if its as simple as changing the hub assembly and rotor to convert the front to the 5x4.5 pattern or not. It may take other parts as well. I just have never compared the other parts to see if they are the same.
But I am curious, what jeep model and year did you get the rear out of? Also, is it the same width as your Dakota?
But I am curious, what jeep model and year did you get the rear out of? Also, is it the same width as your Dakota?
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07-09-2015, 06:07 PM
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i didn't ask the year of the axle bu tit is a 29 spline so it has to be 97 to 01 i believe for jeeps and i have done this swap before the 8.25 axles are one of the few axles that have equal axles on each side but to tell you the truth i never measured and never had a problem and my truck is a 94
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07-10-2015, 09:05 AM
Just for information I took some measurements of mine. (87 8.25) Measuring from the backing plate, drivers side is 26.75 in, and pass. side is 27.25 making a total of 54in.
The 2000 explorer 8.8 rear is 28.5 on drivers side and 26.25 on the pass. side making a total of 54.75.
Now its been a while since I pulled the wheels and measured from drum to drum or rotor to rotor, but I believe the explorer rear was 3in. narrow at the wheel mounting point. So for me, I would have to use 1.5 spacers.
If you don't mind me asking, do you plan to change your master cylinder or proportioning valve?
The 2000 explorer 8.8 rear is 28.5 on drivers side and 26.25 on the pass. side making a total of 54.75.
Now its been a while since I pulled the wheels and measured from drum to drum or rotor to rotor, but I believe the explorer rear was 3in. narrow at the wheel mounting point. So for me, I would have to use 1.5 spacers.
If you don't mind me asking, do you plan to change your master cylinder or proportioning valve?
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07-10-2015, 09:12 PM
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well now lol to my knowledge the proportion valve is so that your brakes don't lock up and your abs works properly. the way i was thought to drive and that vehicles i get to drive i hate abs and not being able to lock up my brakes is a real pain in my ... so no i don't want to run one as for the master i have read the durango one one is better i cant remember what years but that is what i have read.
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07-11-2015, 11:21 AM
no, actually the proportioning valve was used way before anti lock was even thought about. For example, here is one for a 63 Chrysler. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-Chrysler-Newport-Convertible-Brake-Proportioning-Valve-/231384280152?hash=item35df93ec58&vxp=mtr
The purpose is to proportion the fluid for even braking between the front and rear, not anti lock.
Now its been my understanding when going from front disc, rear drum, to 4 wheel disc, the proportioning valve should be changed so that it would compensate for the larger cylinder (caliper) on the rear. The factory system is proportioned for smaller wheel cylinders and if not changed, the vehicle will do most of its braking with the front only.
But, if on the others that you have swapped, and they worked out fine, then maybe this is not so important to change after all.
Good luck with your swap, and how about posting up pictures as you go. I will try to do the same when I do mine!!
The purpose is to proportion the fluid for even braking between the front and rear, not anti lock.
Now its been my understanding when going from front disc, rear drum, to 4 wheel disc, the proportioning valve should be changed so that it would compensate for the larger cylinder (caliper) on the rear. The factory system is proportioned for smaller wheel cylinders and if not changed, the vehicle will do most of its braking with the front only.
But, if on the others that you have swapped, and they worked out fine, then maybe this is not so important to change after all.
Good luck with your swap, and how about posting up pictures as you go. I will try to do the same when I do mine!!