Rear ac blowing hot, front sort of cool.
#11
The expasion valve & dryer are easy to change. Just make sure you use all the correct O-Rings. The front expasion valve is located passenger side firewall. It's the big aluminum block that the a/c lines run into. The dryer is located under your air intake box (passenger side near front of the car). Before you disconnect any of your lines, make sure you let the pressure out of the lines.
You also have a rear a/c expasion valve if you have a roof mounted a/c unit. I don't know where that one is located, because I never had to change that out yet.
Also, if your just changing out the dryer & expansion valve. You really don't need to add any PAG oil to your a/c system.
When you vacuum the system out, you'll want to make sure you Get at least -28.9Hg on the gauge. So, hook up both high and low side of the gauge. Make sure your valves are opened on your gauge fittings (you have to turn it clockwise, think of it like airing up your bike tire, as you turn it clockwise, the little pin pushes down the pin at your a/c line fitting). Once you hit -28.9Hg, close off the valves at the gauge.
Hook up your can of 134a turn it upside down, purge the line to get all the air out by taking a screw driver and pushing the little pin in between the 2 big gauges. When freon squits out, you have purged the line.
Oh, almost forgot. Make sure the high side valve is closed at the gauge after the vacuum is complete.
Now open up the low side valve (blue) the vacuum in your a/c line will suck in most of the Freon.
You also have a rear a/c expasion valve if you have a roof mounted a/c unit. I don't know where that one is located, because I never had to change that out yet.
Also, if your just changing out the dryer & expansion valve. You really don't need to add any PAG oil to your a/c system.
When you vacuum the system out, you'll want to make sure you Get at least -28.9Hg on the gauge. So, hook up both high and low side of the gauge. Make sure your valves are opened on your gauge fittings (you have to turn it clockwise, think of it like airing up your bike tire, as you turn it clockwise, the little pin pushes down the pin at your a/c line fitting). Once you hit -28.9Hg, close off the valves at the gauge.
Hook up your can of 134a turn it upside down, purge the line to get all the air out by taking a screw driver and pushing the little pin in between the 2 big gauges. When freon squits out, you have purged the line.
Oh, almost forgot. Make sure the high side valve is closed at the gauge after the vacuum is complete.
Now open up the low side valve (blue) the vacuum in your a/c line will suck in most of the Freon.
#14
Oh almost forgot, this would be a good time to change out your valves on both high & low side. I used bike tire air valve removal tool for the high side, and a small needle nose plier on the low side. The high side which is the smaller of the two, you can get anywhere. The larger valve, save some time and just get it at the dealer. These are cheap. Only a couple of bucks each.
#15
Ok, I finally got my readings. 81 degrees ambient, 75 degrees in the vent at idle. That was the highest fan setting, but not set to recirculate. (I found out with the thermometer that the ac will recirculate). Static test showed 30 lbs on both sides. With the engine at idle, after running for 10 minutes, I had the low side at 8 lbs and the high side at 47 lbs. Neither was a negative number. At 2000 rpm, I had the low side at negative 4 lbs and the high side at positive 56 lbs.
So, my question is, what the heck does that actually mean? Also, I'm still wondering about the rear ac. It does have the puddle by the rear tire.
So, my question is, what the heck does that actually mean? Also, I'm still wondering about the rear ac. It does have the puddle by the rear tire.
#16
i would send a pm to 45autopete, he is our local A/C tech, you should also have a puddle near the front tire on the passenger side from the front evap core,
tho it sounds to me like its not building up the correct pressure, either low freon or a bad compressor (dont hold me to it, just my thoughts)
tho it sounds to me like its not building up the correct pressure, either low freon or a bad compressor (dont hold me to it, just my thoughts)
#17
If your pressure are that low, your a/c compressor shouldn't even be kicking on. To me, you have a leak somewhere.
Low side should be around 30-40 psi
High side should be around 160-200psi
If your pressure are that low, your a/c compressor shouldn't even be kicking on. To me, you have a leak somewhere.
Low side should be around 30-40 psi
High side should be around 160-200psi (for ambiet temps being 81 deg)
Get a can of 134a with leak detector dye and put it in your system. Let your a/c system run and start checking for leaks with a black light.
Do you have a roof mounted a/c for the rear?
Low side should be around 30-40 psi
High side should be around 160-200psi
If your pressure are that low, your a/c compressor shouldn't even be kicking on. To me, you have a leak somewhere.
Low side should be around 30-40 psi
High side should be around 160-200psi (for ambiet temps being 81 deg)
Get a can of 134a with leak detector dye and put it in your system. Let your a/c system run and start checking for leaks with a black light.
Do you have a roof mounted a/c for the rear?
Last edited by shrpshtr325; 08-22-2010 at 07:48 AM. Reason: double posts
#18
I already explained on what to do. It sounds like you are low on freon. Recover,vacuum, and recharge! There is no possible way that your system would even kick the compressor in at those readings that you gave us unless you hot wired in your compressor. Start out with the easiest fix first! Recover, vacuum(make sure it holds a vacuum after 10 minutes),recharge. If you still have a problem after what I said, get back to us and tell us what readings you have on your low side and high side. Take the readings at idle and at 2000rpm's.
#19
I don't know why it kicks on, but it does. I haven't altered the wiring or anything. I was reading the black line labeled R134A. Maybe I'm not using the gauges properly. To tell the truth, last night would have made a great Youtube video. Several, in fact.
Last edited by Gasnmyveins; 08-22-2010 at 01:50 PM.
#20
The rear air has a blend air door that has an actuator motor on it. Usually in 80% of the time the rear air not blowing out cold is that the joint that the motor goes into for the blend air door will crack and this will cause it not to work at all. It usually will stay on the heat side and not move the door for the cold side to work. Dual A/C units take 2.44lbs of freon and that is the best way to tell if you have enough in your system. Recover, vacuum, and recharge with the correct amount of freon.
I still need to recover, vacuum and recharge. Things have been a bit hectic lately. Hopefully I can do it tonight.
Last edited by Gasnmyveins; 08-25-2010 at 05:31 PM.