New Dodge based on Fiat 500?
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New Dodge based on Fiat 500?
Check out BadStratRT's homepage article about the possibility of a Dodge being based on the Fiat 500. What do you think? Would this be a welcome addition to the Dodge lineup?
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I'm a Neon guy...would love to get me an SRT-4... and maybe I'm "old skool" now (I guess, hard to believe it was that long ago that the Evo's WRX's and SRT-4, Focus', even the Civics and Celicas were the in thing)...
Didn't even like when they replaced the Neon with the Caliber... have driven a Caliber a number of times and don't like it
This 500 just does nothing for me... have even seen it fixed up, wheels tires, paint - on the Modern Performance site... and I just find it ugly...don't care how good it drives, or what kind of power or turbo they would put in it... still just ugly to me
Would love to see something with a nice turbo to compete with like the new Ford Focus
Didn't even like when they replaced the Neon with the Caliber... have driven a Caliber a number of times and don't like it
This 500 just does nothing for me... have even seen it fixed up, wheels tires, paint - on the Modern Performance site... and I just find it ugly...don't care how good it drives, or what kind of power or turbo they would put in it... still just ugly to me
Would love to see something with a nice turbo to compete with like the new Ford Focus
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IF....IF.. you feel you have no other choice in the matter and have to do this at least call it the Dodge Colt so that those of us over the age of 45 will know to avoid it.
Last edited by Nitecop; 09-17-2011 at 08:09 PM. Reason: spelling
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I agree on differentiating the Dodge from the Fiat product but why not try something new Dodge? Offer it as a reliable diesel or twinair with a 6 speed stick, make the car a little more slippery and improve the fuel economy. (and make sure it doesn't rust like the classic fiats we remember)
I think the fiat is a welcome change to the overgrown domestic market, i feel the worst thing this country did was ban gray market cars, there are many innovative non-domestics that never see the light of day here, if we were allowed to bring them over the domestics might see that there is a market for small cars.
PS 2 of my 4 cars weigh under 1200lbs, one a subaru 360 gets around 65mpg on the highway and 50mpg in town, light and fun 920lbs, while still seating 4. My other car is a 1980 comutacar, it tops out at 50mph but uses no gas and runs on deepcycle batteries.
Long since Time to bring the can do attitude back to domestic cars eh?
perhaps a bit of education here ecomodder.com could give dodge a few ideas for 90mpg + vehicles.
I think the fiat is a welcome change to the overgrown domestic market, i feel the worst thing this country did was ban gray market cars, there are many innovative non-domestics that never see the light of day here, if we were allowed to bring them over the domestics might see that there is a market for small cars.
PS 2 of my 4 cars weigh under 1200lbs, one a subaru 360 gets around 65mpg on the highway and 50mpg in town, light and fun 920lbs, while still seating 4. My other car is a 1980 comutacar, it tops out at 50mph but uses no gas and runs on deepcycle batteries.
Long since Time to bring the can do attitude back to domestic cars eh?
perhaps a bit of education here ecomodder.com could give dodge a few ideas for 90mpg + vehicles.
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well, actually, the 500's Sold here, ARE built in North America, albeit South of the Border...@ a Chrysler plant in Toluca, Mexico, and it's 1.4 Multiair Engine is made in Michigan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_500_(2007)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toluca_Car_Assembly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_500_(2007)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toluca_Car_Assembly
Last edited by earlyre; 09-24-2011 at 10:08 PM.
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well, actually, the 500's Sold here, ARE built in North America, albeit South of the Border...@ a Chrysler plant in Toluca, Mexico, and it's 1.4 Multiair Engine is made in Michigan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_500_(2007)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toluca_Car_Assembly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_500_(2007)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toluca_Car_Assembly
But please Do NOT call that a dodge.
I thought that Chrsyler had enough (an learned to not do it) of badge swapping in the past with diamond star motors.
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Just a note, the 300, Charger and Challenger all ride on a Mercedes chassis with American designed bodies and engines. A bit better than rebadging. Much like the new Camaro rides on a Holden (I believe) chassis (Aussie built).
Perhaps a rebodied 500 with a Detroit designed body would be a better idea. At least it would be unique.
I think a 500 with a 6.4L Hemi would be a fun little car
Perhaps a rebodied 500 with a Detroit designed body would be a better idea. At least it would be unique.
I think a 500 with a 6.4L Hemi would be a fun little car
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Just a note, the 300, Charger and Challenger all ride on a Mercedes chassis with American designed bodies and engines. A bit better than rebadging. Much like the new Camaro rides on a Holden (I believe) chassis (Aussie built).
Perhaps a rebodied 500 with a Detroit designed body would be a better idea. At least it would be unique.
I think a 500 with a 6.4L Hemi would be a fun little car
Perhaps a rebodied 500 with a Detroit designed body would be a better idea. At least it would be unique.
I think a 500 with a 6.4L Hemi would be a fun little car
don't forget the Pontiac GTO was a Holden Manaro, the G8 a Holden Commodore, and the Pontiac versions were Built down under, and imported to the states. and now there's the "Chevy Caprice Police patrol vehicle", really a Holden Caprice co designed with... the LAPD i think...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Caprice_PPV
there's been talk off & on for a few years of importing the Holden UTE, first as the Pontiac G8ST(Sport Truck), then when pontiac went away, as the El Camino. and there is an dedicated online contigent that would love to see this happen. (myself Included)
as for a uniquely american design based on the 500's platform, could be done, there are currently 5 or so diffrent vehicles in production using the same Fiat Mini Platform.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Mini_platform
not sure how the chrysler/fiat situation is going to affect the Ford Ka. (built by Fiat, based on same platform, built in same plant as fiat 500, and Fiat Panda in poland)
Last edited by earlyre; 09-25-2011 at 09:35 PM.