6speed Manual Transmission Swap
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6speed Manual Transmission Swap
I am a "newbie" on this forum so if i missed a prior thread that describes this subect, my appologies...Also, if there is a DIY article that I am unable to find? tell me to RTFM and please point me to the information.
All that being said, here is my situation.
My Rig:
2000 SLT QuadCab 4.7L NV3500 4x4 3:92LSD, HO cams, induction & Heads, pistons, 70mm BBK TB,Stainless headers, flowmaster 40's, superchips, airraid, 32" BFGoodrich All Terrian.
My issue:
Reverse went out in my transmission and my transfer case chain is knocking around... at 79k miles...:-|
I have been looking around and have found the following:
I have the follwing questions:
Needless to say, I am looking to make a purchase by next Friday 3/4 so any information ASAP would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Ron
All that being said, here is my situation.
My Rig:
2000 SLT QuadCab 4.7L NV3500 4x4 3:92LSD, HO cams, induction & Heads, pistons, 70mm BBK TB,Stainless headers, flowmaster 40's, superchips, airraid, 32" BFGoodrich All Terrian.
My issue:
Reverse went out in my transmission and my transfer case chain is knocking around... at 79k miles...:-|
I have been looking around and have found the following:
- Brand new NV3500 $1450
- Brand new Dakota Getrag238 $1600+ $500 core
- Rebuild my NV3500 $1100
- Used 2002 Dakota 4.7L/4x4 NV3500 w/87k miles $700
- Used 2008 Ram 4.7L/4x4 Getrag238 w/24k miles for $700
I have the follwing questions:
- 2008 Ram Getrag238
- I assume the Ram Getrag238 will bolt up to Dakota 4.7L?
- Can you reuse the NV3500 shifter linkage?
- If not? do I need Dakota specific Getrag238 linkage?
- Does the Ram Getrag238 transmission line up with the Dakota's crossmember?
- Does the Ram Getrag238 bolt up to the Dakota's NP 231D transfer case?(which I am rebuilding as well)
- Does the Ram Getrag238 have the same size ouput shaft as the NV3500?
- If not? what transfer case would be recommended? (since I am rebuilding my transfer case anyway...)
Needless to say, I am looking to make a purchase by next Friday 3/4 so any information ASAP would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Ron
Last edited by ronsdak; 02-25-2011 at 06:05 PM.
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DakMan6704, if only it were that simple...I searched google before I decided to post to this forum. I found plenty of Automatic to 5 speed conversions, but no clear and definitive answers to the following basic questions:
Is a 2005 or newer Ram getrag 238 the same as a Dakota Getrag 238? (they have different part numbers???)
Will a Dakota 2005 or newer Getrag238 bolt up to a 2000 Dakota?
I see this isn't a very popular subject here ...lol ???
Is a 2005 or newer Ram getrag 238 the same as a Dakota Getrag 238? (they have different part numbers???)
Will a Dakota 2005 or newer Getrag238 bolt up to a 2000 Dakota?
I see this isn't a very popular subject here ...lol ???
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I dont think anyone has looked into it too much. I search "nv3500 swap getrag 238" and get informative stuff.
The only way to get true cross-numbers might be to go to a trans shop that would know. I expect all numbered items to be the same. But, they may just have diff tail adapters or bell housings, etc....or, if theyre both local, take cardboard and do a template!
The only way to get true cross-numbers might be to go to a trans shop that would know. I expect all numbered items to be the same. But, they may just have diff tail adapters or bell housings, etc....or, if theyre both local, take cardboard and do a template!
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Lots of work....
Ok, here we go...
I pulled my original NV3500 and transfer case. In looking at the transmissions side by side it looks doable. I jacked the Getrag 238 into position and mounted it up to the engine. That's when I took my measurements and made the decision to NOT go through with it.
No changes required on the following:
Bellhousing
Starter
Clutch
Flywheel
Changes required:
Transfercase input spline (Length & # of teeth)
Transfercase shifting likeage (lengthen by 2.8")
New Transmission crossmember (fabricate)
Relocate transmission mount crossmember (3.8" towards the rear)
Bought a new Transmission Mount($165 non-refundable - Dodge)
Cut tunnel for shifter (2.4" forward)
Cannot reuse the console
Driveshaft (shorten by 3.3")
Run a new slave cylinder line
New wiring connector (reverse lights)
Call me a whimp, but this is a daily driver and I do not need to fab the truck up that much.
So...if you know anybody that wants a low mileage(24k) 2008 Ram Getrag 238 let me know
Ron
I pulled my original NV3500 and transfer case. In looking at the transmissions side by side it looks doable. I jacked the Getrag 238 into position and mounted it up to the engine. That's when I took my measurements and made the decision to NOT go through with it.
No changes required on the following:
Bellhousing
Starter
Clutch
Flywheel
Changes required:
Transfercase input spline (Length & # of teeth)
Transfercase shifting likeage (lengthen by 2.8")
New Transmission crossmember (fabricate)
Relocate transmission mount crossmember (3.8" towards the rear)
Bought a new Transmission Mount($165 non-refundable - Dodge)
Cut tunnel for shifter (2.4" forward)
Cannot reuse the console
Driveshaft (shorten by 3.3")
Run a new slave cylinder line
New wiring connector (reverse lights)
Call me a whimp, but this is a daily driver and I do not need to fab the truck up that much.
So...if you know anybody that wants a low mileage(24k) 2008 Ram Getrag 238 let me know
Ron
Last edited by ronsdak; 03-31-2011 at 10:33 AM.
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