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Old 05-03-2012, 03:59 AM
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Im new to the forum and i was wondering what parts i would need and a ballpark estimate on what it would take to convert my 99 dakota 5.2L 4x4 from a automatic to a manual transmission. The reason im looking into this is because unfortunately the auto transmission just gave out Monday and doing this conversion is looking like a real possibility so i wanted to do some research on what i would need to do it.

As i said, im not sure what parts it would take to do this, other than a manual transmission, clutch peddle, brake peddle, and possibly a new steering column. If possible, i wanted save a few bucks by using the automatic steering column i have now by just deactivating the column shifter. Is this possible or is there something that will require i get a manuals steering column to do the conversion?

iv been looking for a long time all over the internet and have yet to find a strait forward answer and now that the auto failed, i figure now's a good a time as any to ask around for help/insight.
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:44 PM
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The best write up is on a 1st Generation Dakota. The basics will be the same.
Here is the link. http://dodgeforum.com/forum/1st-gen-...-5-2l-4x4.html

I'm starting my manual swap now too, just starting the parts collection.

I will move this to the 2nd Generation Dakota Sub-forum.
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:11 AM
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I thought about doing this but as I looked further into it the parts were hard to find. I couldnt find a low mileage 5 speed within a 100 miles of me and if it was low they wanted a arm and a leg for it. Best bet is buy a donor truck. As for me I just bought a whole different truck lol.
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:37 AM
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You will also have to get a new flywheel i believe off of the manual vehicles engine. You will have the clutch pedal assembly, master cyliner, driveshafts due to shorter length ususally. Im sure there are other things as well. These trucks came with the 5spd as an option so it is doable.
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Old 05-04-2012, 06:40 PM
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sometimes the drivetrain tunnel has different sizes, and shapes. my friend knew this when put a 318 in a D50.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:42 PM
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I have an AX-15 from my '99 sitting in my garage - had 150,000 on it when I pulled it to put in the NV4500. Also a flywheel, bellhousing and even a nice-running 3.9L if anyone wants to collect parts. Unfortunately I reused all the other drivetrain parts.
PM me if interested - in Charleston, WV. Need it gone as I'm moving soon.
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I have an AX-15 from my '99 sitting in my garage - had 150,000 on it when I pulled it to put in the NV4500. Also a flywheel, bellhousing and even a nice-running 3.9L if anyone wants to collect parts. Unfortunately I reused all the other drivetrain parts.
PM me if interested - in Charleston, WV. Need it gone as I'm moving soon.
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How is the NV4500 fitting for you?
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:01 AM
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I had to relocate the crossmember, move the shifter forward in the floor cutout and bend it to clear the dash in the new spot but it's in there and doing well so far. It's much more of a "truck" transmission than the smooth and well spaced AX-15, but it works well behind the Cummins.
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Those AX15s were always bad about losing the syncros in 4th. Every one i ever had did that.
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Mine has held up well for 152,000 miles. I did notice when I pulled it apart that the clutch disk had some pretty good cracks throughout it - don't know how long those had been there or if they were on the verge of failure but it didn't look great - still plenty of material on the wear parts though. The tranny was shifting well though. Guess some do better than others...
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i have a nv3500 that i just pulled from my truck with 120000 on it. works great you can have the clutch and flywheel with it. i live in columbus indiana. pm me if interested. only reason im getting rid of it is because i have a nv 4500 going in behind a 4 bt cummins
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Those AX15s were always bad about losing the syncros in 4th. Every one i ever had did that.
never lost 4th but have lost 1st and 2nd synchros, I overhauled the AX 15 in my Wrangler for that a year ago;and have seen the same thing in others. I attribute that to having to teach both my wife and son how to drive a stick, off that same Jeep; if you drive decent that AX 15 will last quite a while I look at an opportunity thing run what you can find;

you think that trans was bad? Try the orig 5 speed they put in a Dakota 87-89 I think the called it an A 535 and then an NV 2500 (same trans, renamed))
or the one they used in 4 banger Jeeps (AX5)

also miles is less of a factor when looking for a manual tranny vs an auto
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i have a nv3500 that i just pulled from my truck with 120000 on it. works great you can have the clutch and flywheel with it. i live in columbus indiana. pm me if interested. only reason im getting rid of it is because i have a nv 4500 going in behind a 4 bt cummins
In the process myselfn right now, of putting an NV 3500 in my 93 Dakota; its what was available to me and it did come from another 318 Dakota...
I think 1st gear is slightly too low in either an AX 15 or an NV 3500.... and too big a jump from 1st to 2nd not like these trucks are that heavy or anything, even loaded down
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What about the Throttle Position Sensor,can it be eliminated?
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I think 1st gear is slightly too low in either an AX 15 or an NV 3500.... and too big a jump from 1st to 2nd not like these trucks are that heavy or anything, even loaded down
I disagree. I think the low first gear is awesome for starting off from a stop, especially on hills or when towing a heavy trailer (or when towing a heavy trailer on hills). It also helps the crawl ratio when you're offroad.
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Hey guys, Im new to the forum and i was wondering what parts i would need and a ballpark estimate on what it would take to convert my 99 dakota 5.2L 4x4 from a automatic to a manual transmission. The reason im looking into this is because unfortunately the auto transmission just gave out Monday and doing this conversion is looking like a real possibility so i wanted to do some research on what i would need to do it. As i said, im not sure what parts it would take to do this, other than a manual transmission, clutch peddle, brake peddle, and possibly a new steering column. If possible, i wanted save a few bucks by using the automatic steering column i have now by just deactivating the column shifter. Is this possible or is there something that will require i get a manuals steering column to do the conversion? iv been looking for a long time all over the internet and have yet to find a strait forward answer and now that the auto failed, i figure now's a good a time as any to ask around for help/insight.
I know a lot if you need help, I'm doing the swap on my 97 dakota , all I did was cover up the P N R D 2 1 with a blacked out piece then knocked out the pin that held the auto sifter on the used black plastic to cover that auto shifter slider and hole, and get the clutch master and all for that year truck if you want you can take a look at my thread and see if any can help you if not ask me questions!
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I disagree. I think the low first gear is awesome for starting off from a stop, especially on hills or when towing a heavy trailer (or when towing a heavy trailer on hills). It also helps the crawl ratio when you're offroad.
It's great for off-road or towing, but it sucks for everyday driving. With 3.21s it would be okay, but still a big jump to 2nd.
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