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Old 11-23-2013, 08:54 PM
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Hey Folks,
I have a 2004 Dakota quad cab. Id like to upgrade my Driving lights and was wondering if anyone has any recomendations/input.
Mostly looking to just upgrade the bulbs. Brighter and farther ilumination is the goal.
Really not looking to do an HID upgrade.

Any input is welcome.
Thanks in advance.
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Old 11-23-2013, 09:04 PM
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You'll like HID if you switch. The silverstars are really the next best thing.
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Old 11-23-2013, 09:19 PM
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Thanks Mag.

How difficult is the HID upgrade/Install?

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How difficult is the HID upgrade/Install?

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You unplug the lights. You mount a ballast somewhere. You change the lightbulb. You plug in the ballast and light bulb. Done. You can pick your bulb color. I like 6000-6500 (dayglow white), some people like the 4-5000's, and some like the 3500's (dark halogen yellow).

The biggest discrepancies I've seen are usually how well the plugs work for the factory connector. The ones I've got in my drawer right now (lazy bum never put them on after my latest accident) have a connector almost not at all like the factory one- wrong pin spacing, right shape, wrong latch depth. But I made it work, at least in-hand. The set I had before were perfectly matched. Same brand, same model, 2 years apart.
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Interesting....
Do you recomend a brand or where to purchase them? also, do they come as a "kit"?
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yes they come as kits. They are all over the internet, but I edited my post earlier-

The biggest discrepancies I've seen are usually how well the plugs work for the factory connector. The ones I've got in my drawer right now (lazy bum never put them on after my latest accident) have a connector almost not at all like the factory one- wrong pin spacing, right shape, wrong latch depth. But I made it work, at least in-hand. The set I had before were perfectly matched. Same brand, same model, 2 years apart.

Anything you order will be manufacture en chine, so they are all the same quality internally. They just put different connectors on them to match the OEM connector.

I had my first set mounded to the front of the core support. Whenever I get the ones installed that I have now, I'll probably mount them to the inside of the frame rails above the steering rack.
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Cool,
Thanks for all he info Mags.
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oh, and for the fogs, you want 35W HID's. The 55's are for head beams and will melt the tiny fog housing.

Or you can just get silver star 898's.
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You might want to check with your DMV before trying a HID upgrade.

Odds are that you won't find a street legal kit. Most are labeled for "off road use only" and NHTSA is cracking down on that too.
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You might want to check with your DMV before trying a HID upgrade.

Odds are that you won't find a street legal kit. Most are labeled for "off road use only" and NHTSA is cracking down on that too.
really, even for fog lights?

I talked to a cop back when I worked with one, and he said that as long as they are natural looking, they're fine. But if they see like a deep blue, they can pull that vehicle over if they are bored enough.

The other day at school I saw a deep blue chevy truck with hideous wheels on it. The only thing that could have made it uglier than the wheels, were that the HID headlights were the same color as the truck. How the heck does a person with those drive at night? They had to be at least 15,000 kelvin.
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The problem as I understand it is that it's the beam pattern that's the real issue, not the color. The reflector needs to be changed as well as the bulb to be compliant.

A quick phone call may save some grief.
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The problem as I understand it is that it's the beam pattern that's the real issue, not the color. The reflector needs to be changed as well as the bulb to be compliant.

A quick phone call may save some grief.
You are exactly correct. HID bulbs in a housing designed for halogens will throw light all over the place and cause glare for other drivers. They look "brighter", but it's mostly just the spread out pattern.

I'm sure MANY people here will disagree with me.
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Might be 2 weeks late with this info but it may help others out in the future when reading this post.

My father worked at a tire shop that did inspection stickers and he was in charge of that and got his license from the DMV and all the certifications he needed to do that. I believe about a year n a half ago now, the DMV sent out an invoice saying to reject any vehicle that had aftermarket HID kits. If the vehicle hadn't come from the factory with HID's they were to fail them.

Now my father loves HID's, how much they illuminate the road, loves the idea and I can't express how much I love how my truck lights up the road as well (I have 5k hi/low bulbs, cant remember off hand what wattage the ballasts were). My father's reaction toward them was that the only reason they sent out the invoice was because people were throwing aftermarket headlights and HID's into their vehicles not AIMING their headlights. So you have one headlight blinding on coming drivers and the other pointing into peoples living rooms.

Now of course as an inspection person your job already is to ensure that people's headlights are aimed properly so he did just that. He made sure they were aimed as they should and passed them (as long as there weren't any other issues of course.) Now I can't say that everyone takes this approach but I've had HID's in for about half a year and I do mostly night driving. I'm currently at college so late night 120 mi road trips back home are a bi-weekly occurrence and I have NEVER been flashed by oncoming vehicles (as if I had highbeams on), never been pulled over and ticketed. Not one problem. So take all this information as you will but I personally think you'll be fine legality wise.

As 00DakDan has said however a halogen headlight shouldn't be housing an HID bulb. That causes the funky beam pattern. I purchased HID headlights along with HID kits and threw both in as a package. You definitely want to put HID headlights in as well. And I apologize for the lecture. Just wanted to get every bit of information I had out there for future upgradee's to see.
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The ones that I have in my truck I got from VVME off of ebay, for my fog lights I got their 35 wat slim line kit for the ease of installation. I use them all the time and haven't had a single problem with them being considered illegal here in Colorado.
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