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Old 09-10-2013, 09:58 AM
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So a project I had intended to start in the summer got pushed waaay back, but now it's underway.

Got the skyjacker lift in the *** end of the truck and also ordered all new rear brake components, including SS braided lines. Now about to start on the front, which includes the EMS hub conversion, the steering components upgrade (I didn't go with DOR since their kit is massively expensive IMO), and a few other things.

I ordered a set of 315/75R16 BFG All Terrains and am now having a hard time finding a set of wheels to go with them. I just want something simple and black, yet it seems finding 16x8/5x5.5 in black is a pain in the *** online. I am aiming for 4.5" backspacing (as that seems to be the consensus through searching these forums), and would like to not be breaking the bank on a simple wheel. Any suggestions out there? Even the Pro Comp ones I found are well over $100 each wheel.

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Old 09-10-2013, 10:35 AM
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Looks like even generic steel wheels frigging START at 90 bucks.......

Start lookin' on craigslist. See what other manufacturers used the same bolt pattern, and find some wheels that will work.
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Looks like even generic steel wheels frigging START at 90 bucks.......

Start lookin' on craigslist. See what other manufacturers used the same bolt pattern, and find some wheels that will work.
Yeah, I was pretty shocked to see the prices.

I've been hunting kijiji and craigslist for months... no joy. The not-so-great part of living in New Brunswick, Canada. I may have to suck this one up, but really hoping not to. I've been hunting on Amazon as I have a Prime account and thus no shipping and there is never tax. The tires were under $1000 shipped.
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:43 AM
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Yeah, I don't see a lotta options if you aren't finding anything in the secondary market.... might check with local tire stores, and see if they have any take-offs they would be willing to sell..... aside from that, I think you are stuck.
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He's back. They are out there, more info and I will see what I can find for you. So I guess you don't want to here I sold my black wheels for $50 eh. Polished ones sold for $275. I can find them starting @ $130 a wheel.
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He's back. They are out there, more info and I will see what I can find for you. So I guess you don't want to here I sold my black wheels for $50 eh. Polished ones sold for $275. I can find them starting @ $130 a wheel.
I hate you. Seriously.

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I'll send you some pictures soon. Work has been busy, to say the least. Sucks now that it's getting a bit chilly, but I'm in no huge rush. Tore down the rear end of the truck on the weekend and did a lot of cleaning to all the parts. Ordered everything new for the rear brakes, but opted NOT to get the 1 ton wheel cylinders as I don't really haul anything. Hopefully I'll start on the front end this weekend. Looking forward to seeing it all together and putting the car into storage for the winter!

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Look for Eagle Alloy series 185 you should be able to find those wheels cheap. I have used spline lug nuts here I can put on the bus for you free. You would hate me more if you knew how many 1500 new/used parts I have thrown out this past month. I would also look for 16x10 wheel skip the 16x8 altogether.
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If I were you, I'd look into the US Wheel 94 series. They look sweet and run right at $100/ea. Only backspacing is 4.25" or 5", but 4.25" is pretty close to 4.5".

Link:http://www.summitracing.com/parts/usw-94-7855/overview/
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Hmm... I'll have the consider the 94 series. I was going to go with all black, but I am guessing I will need to be flexible.

Merc, why 16x10 instead of 16x8? Is that preferred for 35's? I know I am not looking for that all "important" wide stance. I could care less about that, especially since it seems likely to cause greater wear and tear on parts than anything else.

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Edit: Found this on ebay, atleast it is free shipping.

It has an offset of 13mm, so 5" backspace. It has a large enough hub bore to deal with the EMS Hub Conversion kit. 5" backspace was stock on these trucks, but will it produce any issue with the larger tire? Also, I'll look into 16x10" wheels if you think that's better Merc. Since I'm still shopping for that, might as well see what's out there!

And here is my search for 16"x10" - http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...2&_sacat=33743

Glad to see there are some on there for not too bad. I see there is a US Wheel that is 16x10 there as well, but it only produces 4" backspace. I suspect that'd be an issue.

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Just fast post here

I had a better ride out of the 16x10, tires lasted longer, steering improved. This is also thinking ahead for a 13.50 tire. I just looked at my old wheel specs and for the 16x10 it did have the 4" BS and that put the tire/wheel out 3" past the fender.
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Could check out Mr.wheeldeal.com , he gives some good prices on wheels, and can make combo rim/tire packages as well. Us canucks do have to pay duty coming in from the states though...
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I tried looking on summit for you and found some. If you went 15", they would be a lot cheaper.

Not sure if this'll help or not but here ya go.

http://www.summitracing.com/search/d...n/5-x-5-1-2-in

I got all of my wheels brand new for 192 shipped off summit.
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he's already purchased 16" tires
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Look at Black Rock Wheels they are decently priced and have simple black rims, however your backspacing is going to 4.25" instead 4.5" in a 16x8
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Could check out Mr.wheeldeal.com , he gives some good prices on wheels, and can make combo rim/tire packages as well. Us canucks do have to pay duty coming in from the states though...
I stumbled upon that website the other day. At first it seemed kinda sketchy, but after requesting a quote on some wheels, they were very helpful and friendly. Great prices too. I would definitely consider buying from them, well, if I actually had dough for wheels...
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Could check out Mr.wheeldeal.com , he gives some good prices on wheels, and can make combo rim/tire packages as well. Us canucks do have to pay duty coming in from the states though...
Wish I had known about that sooner. Also, having a mailbox in the US (Houlton, ME) has been exceptionally handy at finding things a lot cheaper ;o)

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I had a better ride out of the 16x10, tires lasted longer, steering improved. This is also thinking ahead for a 13.50 tire. I just looked at my old wheel specs and for the 16x10 it did have the 4" BS and that put the tire/wheel out 3" past the fender.
Merc,

Redhunter recommended some Black Rocks and that was one of the ones I was looking at (
) in 16x10. It, much like yours, is a 4" BS. You say that sticks out 3" past fender - did you run into any issues with that? You mention you had better steering and better tire wear, but I always thought having tires stick out that far caused large amounts of wear on parts. Is that because they have a narrower wheel, then toss spacers on them to stick them out further?

Right now, I'm leaning towards the one I linked above or the US Wheel 044 Stealth Crawler (they look the same, but I like the unmarked center cap and I just noticed the US Wheel is a 5" backspace - good or bad?). They also have a large enough hub bore to accommodate the EMS Offroad Hub Conversion (http://www.emsoffroad.com/store/inde...roducts_id=262)

Hmm... I think I may sleep on it, read what is posted by morning, and order which ever one I decide at work tomorrow.

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Edit: Random, but this one:
States that it is a 5" BS, yet the offset is +13 which I think is a 6" BS. Unless they mean -13. I'll have to email and ask. Either way, the toss up is between 4" or 5" BS. I'll go with the 16x10s if others think they are worth it. I am NOT a tire guru... I learn from here, so I had originally looked at 16x8 as that seemed to be what a lot of people were using.

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I very much thought the same even posted about it. In the long run parts lasted about the same time as before. You have gotten rid of one headache with the pt kit, what ball-joints are in it? I am now one of those that has to say the 44 is just not up to big tires. I still have a few bugs to work out but I am loving the 60's.
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I very much thought the same even posted about it. In the long run parts lasted about the same time as before. You have gotten rid of one headache with the pt kit, what ball-joints are in it? I am now one of those that has to say the 44 is just not up to big tires. I still have a few bugs to work out but I am loving the 60's.
Swapping that is completely out of the question at the moment. The GF's patience is definitely wearing thin, especially since I'm also playing a lot with our '13 Focus ST ;o)

The parts I ordered were Moog - the same list you and I came up with before, and in fact I think there is a screen capture of it somewhere on here still. Oh, and it was CHEAPER to go through Amazon.com instead of Rockauto as Amazon gave me no taxes and no shipping fees.

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Edit: Oh, I wasn't able to order the wheels today as we did a 13km forced ruck march and then I was out shooting 9mm all day. Any thoughts on which wheel to go with due to backspace? Looks wise, they are the same IMO. It's the BS I'm curious about.
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16x10 with 4" will stick out a ways..... but, I think would be less likely to contact the control arms at full lock.

16x8 with 5" are narrower...... and might work just fine. What is recommended rim width for your tires?
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