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Old 05-07-2014, 10:31 AM
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Hey guys I found a pair of shorties on craigslist and just wanted some opinions on whether they're worth it or not. You can see them here http://florencesc.craigslist.org/pts/4457636468.html. Since they're not ceramic coated I figured I would use some VHT ceramic spray and bake them in the oven if I did get them. I will also be gutting my cat after I get my inspection so I'm looking forward to finally clearing up my exhaust.
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Old 05-07-2014, 11:35 AM
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Look like cheap stainless headers. I would check around, and see what new prices are like.

Just shorties won't help as much as you would like. Biggest restriction in your exhaust is where the two pipes come into the front of the cat. Replacing that piece with the jegs or summit off-road y-pipe would get you more, and would nicely complement the headers too.
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Old 05-07-2014, 11:55 AM
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I asked the guy and he said they were his brothers and he got them from dtr racing. I will be getting the off road y pipe in the future to compliment headers. I figured I would start with headers then work my way back. Would it just be better to hold out and get long tubes and the y pipe at the same time?
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:04 PM
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They look cheapies to me. You can brand new cheapies for 200. Not really worth it to me.
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:14 PM
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Ok thanks guys. I thought they looked a bit cheap by looking at the welds and what not. The guys also seems desperate to get rid of them so I'll probably pass unless he lets them go for like $40.
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:15 PM
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see now 40 bucks would be worth it because why the heck not?
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:27 PM
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Haha yea that's what I was thinking. I also found a pair of 360 small block mopar hooker long tube headers for $100. Are these any good? They seem to have some aging but nothing a bit of scrubbing and a ceramic coat cant help.
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Old 05-07-2014, 01:39 PM
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Are they for the magnum engine? Or the LA series engine? If the latter, not sure they will fit.
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Old 05-07-2014, 02:01 PM
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I text the guy to make sure and he said they would fit and he will be sending me a picture of the model number after work so that I can be 100% positive. Has anyone ever had these or know whether they're good or not?
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Old 05-07-2014, 02:17 PM
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Im pretty sure LA motor headers dont fit on magnums but I could be wrong.

I wouldnt do longtubes unless youve got a ton of other mods planned, they will open the exhaust up to much for a stockish motor and you will lose bottom end.
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Yea so he looked at the model number again and they're for the LA motor so no luck with these. By a ton of other mods what would it take before lt's are better? So far what I have planned in the future include roller rockers, trans go shift kit, hemi fever tune, 4.56 gears, and a few other things.
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Old 05-07-2014, 05:46 PM
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headers go nicely with intake side mods. Roller rockers being on the list.... along with better intake manifold, cam change... things of that nature. A lot depends on the primary tube size of the headers, for low end grunt, smaller is better. I think 1.5 would be really nice, but, in order to get headers that size for our trucks these days, you gotta spend north of 600 bucks for the headers. I think the Pacesetters (the most reasonably priced headers for our trucks....) are 1 5/8ths, which is a tad bit large, but, does indeed help. The better scavenging you get with headers mostly makes up for any low end loss.
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:23 PM
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I've got LA 360 Long tube Doug Thorley's hanging on the wall. Wish they'd fit my Dakota. Magnum 318. I can probably get you measurements if it would help you.
I've looked at them before and they look like they'd fit the Magnum heads.
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:55 PM
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I think they will physically bolt to the heads, but, the motor mounts moved from the LA, to the magnum engines.... I do believe that is where the problems come in.

If you were feeling particularly brave, (masochistic?) you could 'test fit' one?
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Old 05-08-2014, 06:59 AM
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I'll line one up to the engine when I leave for work in ten minutes. I've a Magnum on a pallet and the Thorley's are right there.
Can only get one side though as I dont have time to be pulling manifolds or pull the engine away from the wall to look.
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:00 AM
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Text again after I hit the hwy. Lol.
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:21 AM
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Physically bolts to the head.
Left header has definite interference with engine mount
Second pipe needs to move. Comes straight down as does third. Possible modifications can be made but why.
Shorty headers can be purchased for around $250 that bolt on.
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