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Old 10-20-2010, 08:59 PM
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Hi guys, new to the forum. I have a 95 Dodge ram 2500 3/4 ton 4x4 that won't start and was wondering if anyone could help me. The details: Long story short, I believe the truck ran out of gas while my wife was going to the gas station. I put gas in it and it wouldn't start. I heard the fuel pump kick on so I assumed it was good. I went ahead and changed the plugs and wires and it still wouldn't start. After getting fed up I just went ahead and replaced the fuel pump. Truck still would only crank, but it wouldn't turn over. To say the least, after talking to people I changed the distributor, rotor button, and the crankshaft position sensor which was a pain. The check engine light comes on when trying to start it, but it won't crank over. I had the codes checked and their is no codes. Just reads 55. Theres fuel to the fuel rail also. One other thing, I spray ether in the carb and it still won't fire up. I have spark to the plugs and it will crank all day, but it won't start.

Can someone please help me and maybe point me in the right direction to get this fixed. Before the gas thing it started up everytime on the first turn of the key.
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Old 10-20-2010, 09:09 PM
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Since you opened your cap, check the orientation of the manshaft sensor ring. If your injectors hit while cranking, then it is okay. I would not recommend changing the crank sensor IF YOU WERE GETTING SPARK, but maybe you weren't. There is a relay fuse in the front pod that is part of the ignition as well.
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Old 10-20-2010, 09:15 PM
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It was getting spark, but I changed the crankshaft sensor anyways. I'm lost. It cranks over just fine just won't fire even when I spray starting fluid in it. I switched the relays around the fuel pump relay and the asd relay and it still wouldn't start. Someone was saying the ignition coil, but it's getting spark. Another think I heard is the transmission Temp sensor? Why would this not let it fire up? BTW I appreciate you trying to help me.
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Old 10-21-2010, 06:28 AM
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Just because you can hear the pump does not mean it's pumping. You need to get a fuel pressure gauge and test it.
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:01 PM
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Ok i'll do that tomorrow. One question I have then is wouldn't it fire up with starting fluid even if the pump wasn't working?
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Old 10-21-2010, 11:16 PM
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if it won't start with a generous spray of starting fluid, then something is bad wrong. starting fluid should overcome any fuel related problem at all, including no pressure, no fuel, stopped up lines, bad injectors, and/or asd shutdown of fuel pump, and no power to pump.

you can check fuel pressure in a technical manner with a gauge. you can also press the little schrader valve thing and if gas squirts into your face, then your fuel pressure is enough to crank it.

and you say you've got spark on the spark plugs ? nice and blue, or maybe weak. could be a weak coil.

are you getting any backfire or popping ? that might indicate a timing problem, which might indicate crossed plug wires, or bad cam position sensor (aka secondary coil pickup).

are you sure the wife ran out of gas, or could the truck have just "shut down" and its still in the same condition, only with a lot of new parts you've put on.
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Old 10-23-2010, 12:25 AM
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I'm assuming it was out of gas because it was dead on E when I went to pick her up. The spark was a little weak, but I didn't think it was that bad. Theres no popping or anything it just cranks but won't turn over. I'm going to try the ignition coil and hopefully that works. If it doesn't I'm at a loss. The code I get is a 12 and then a 55. 12 is for the battery 55 is the end of the codes from what I hear. Would my computer or pcm be bad if I'm getting codes? I'm sorry for all of the questions but I'm not a mechanic. I've just been researching on the computer and I bought a book on the truck I've been reading a been doing all the work myself. Any help from anyone is greatly appreciated. Thanks for everyone who is giving me input.
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Old 10-23-2010, 04:03 PM
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You had the cap off and didnt change the camshaft position sensor? Did you maybe pull the wires on it?? or jammed them under the cap and cut em?

When you did your crankshaft position sensor, was the negative to the batery disconnected? Doing so prevents burning your new sensor, and also resets the PCM.

As DHVAUGHAN wrote, if it does not fire up with Quick Start or a little gas in the TB, it points to weak or no spark.
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are you sure the wife ran out of gas, or could the truck have just "shut down" and its still in the same condition, only with a lot of new parts you've put on.

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did you ever find out what the problem was? I'm having the same exact problem.
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tralay or anyone ever find out what was wrong? I just got a used 2500 dodge ram 5.9 and as i was going up hill it started choking out like it was out of fuel. tapped the tank and sounded like there was nothing there. after calling the seller and screaming at him because gage read 1/2 tank, i put gas in and nothing. checked spark and was very weak. poured fuel in the intake and nothing. Sounds a lot like the above problems and if anyone can help please let me know
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Yeah, I found out that it was the coil. I had weak spark and it was low enough to keep it from ignition. Actually, the spark didn't look that bad but it was. If you have noticeably weak spark I'd change the coil out.
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:36 AM
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Everything seemed to be working fine, that is what stumped me. I released pressure on the shrader valve and fuel about shot in my face so i knew it had good pressure. ether wouldn't start it at all. It would turn over all day but wouldnt catch. I checked all the fuses and relays in the underhood compartment and the dash and nothing was wrong there. I even used a spark tester and was getting what I thought to be good spark. The only way I knew it wasn't good spark was from testing it against my friend's spark in his identical truck. His made you wanna let go of the screwdriver for fear of that spark climbing up it. Mine didn't have that affect. So, changing the coil fixed it right up.
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This whole story about the 95 dodge 360 not starting was almost identical to the problem I am having. One slight change is that I am not getting any fire going into the coil. My truck was always a perfect starting one with 360,000 kl on it. It could sit all winter and a couple turn-overs and fire. All of a sudden it started very hard and then failed to start at all. I did get a backfire the last time I got it going and after that there was no firing up despite turning over.
I tested the fire going into the plugs with a voltmeter and nothing. Tested the fire after the coil and nothing when turning over. I then tested the fire going to the coil when turning over and still nothing on the voltmeter. So it appear that there is no fire getting to the coil.
If anyone has any suggestions on this, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Old 12-11-2014, 01:05 AM
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the coil creates the spark, so what you really mean is the connector isnt telling it to generate a spark. u can test the connector while turning the key and see if it reads anything, not sure what it should read though. if not then i guess your gonna have to trace the wires back and check for continuity.
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I tested the fire going into the plugs with a voltmeter and nothing.
The only thing you might accomplish that way is smoking a voltmeter. Don't do that.

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Tested the fire after the coil and nothing when turning over.
As above.

The reason: What smokes the voltmeter, if things are working, is blasting it with several kilovolts that it's not designed to withstand. Why it can't tell you anything is because the voltage is there for only a handful of milliseconds, four times per revolution if you're on the coil side and once every second revolution on the plug wires. A voltmeter is not at all the right tool for the job.

If you want to test for spark, either remove a spark plug, ground the big metal part with a jumper wire (or get your nards all worked up and hold it against grounded metal, but don't hold it against me if it kills you) and observe it for spark jumping the gap while cranking the engine, or hang a spark tester inline with a plug and observe it for spark while cranking the engine. Otherwise, go spend thousands of dollars on an ignition scope, learn to interpret the waveforms, and then go to town with it.

Check for spark as I've recommended above, and then come on back around to report your findings and get some more screwball advice.
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I am having the same issue with my 95 dodge 1500 with the 5.9. For some reason I am not getting any fire from the coil I have replaced the following parts at this time crank sensor, coil, and the disk in the distributor. And I can not for the life of me figure out why it is not getting fire. Also I ha e checked all fussed in side and out along with all relays that I am aware of. Any help would be greatly appreciated
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I am having the same issue with my 95 dodge 1500 with the 5.9. For some reason I am not getting any fire from the coil I have replaced the following parts at this time crank sensor, coil, and the disk in the distributor. And I can not for the life of me figure out why it is not getting fire. Also I ha e checked all fussed in side and out along with all relays that I am aware of. Any help would be greatly appreciated
Check to see if you are getting power TO the coil. You will only see it for about three seconds when you first turn the key to On.

Do you hear the fuel pump prime?
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