1998 5.2 1500 no start issue
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1998 5.2 1500 no start issue
Donor Motor 5.2 out of a Dodge 1500 p/u
Installed into a street rod utilizing a Telorvek wiring panel to keep the F.I. on it. We've been over the ground strapping and a complete check of each individual wiring to verify all wires/components are connected to the proper circuits and voltages which they do. Also, 50 P.S.I. at fuel rails confirmed.
Power to all +5v sensors (Cam/CKS) is showing 6.3v EDIT: @5v . +12 at coil.
Everything shows power but no spark/start.
Read on this forum about security issues (SKIM/VSS), is it possible that this is the case?
When tested with OBDII it showed P0443 was the only code, it was erased. now (1st) computer will now not show a connection to the OBDII. Dead?
Replaced with (2nd) computer, when connected the OBDII showed the same code as before.
Also, the fuel pump (new unit) originally worked properly (2 second on/off) now it does not shut off after 2 seconds. It runs until the key is turned off. All wires to the unit check out.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as trying to best not chase the tail on this thing.
-Patrick
Installed into a street rod utilizing a Telorvek wiring panel to keep the F.I. on it. We've been over the ground strapping and a complete check of each individual wiring to verify all wires/components are connected to the proper circuits and voltages which they do. Also, 50 P.S.I. at fuel rails confirmed.
Power to all +5v sensors (Cam/CKS) is showing 6.3v EDIT: @5v . +12 at coil.
Everything shows power but no spark/start.
Read on this forum about security issues (SKIM/VSS), is it possible that this is the case?
When tested with OBDII it showed P0443 was the only code, it was erased. now (1st) computer will now not show a connection to the OBDII. Dead?
Replaced with (2nd) computer, when connected the OBDII showed the same code as before.
Also, the fuel pump (new unit) originally worked properly (2 second on/off) now it does not shut off after 2 seconds. It runs until the key is turned off. All wires to the unit check out.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as trying to best not chase the tail on this thing.
-Patrick
Last edited by cpm52; 06-08-2011 at 10:56 AM.
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There's deffinitely an issue with having 6.3V on your 5v feed. That tells me that something is wrong right there. Wires crossed,or something.Bad grounds.
As far as the computer is concerned,all the values would be skewed from the sensor readings. High and Low voltage, generally will mean a no-start condition, or very poor running.
Disconnect everything on the 5v circuit and meter the voltage again, if 5v is verified, start plugging in one sensor at a time and remeter every time until the voltage changes. If the voltage drops it will be a bad sensor, if it spikes,and it shouldn't,the wiring on that circuit is probably incorrect.
As far as the continuious run on the fuel pump,that signal comes from the computer as a ground. Two computers with the same symptoms,says there's something in the wiring. That's my thoughts.
As far as the computer is concerned,all the values would be skewed from the sensor readings. High and Low voltage, generally will mean a no-start condition, or very poor running.
Disconnect everything on the 5v circuit and meter the voltage again, if 5v is verified, start plugging in one sensor at a time and remeter every time until the voltage changes. If the voltage drops it will be a bad sensor, if it spikes,and it shouldn't,the wiring on that circuit is probably incorrect.
As far as the continuious run on the fuel pump,that signal comes from the computer as a ground. Two computers with the same symptoms,says there's something in the wiring. That's my thoughts.
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First, before anything else, please read this.
I will move this to the main section where all the tech questions go, get you some help.
First, before anything else, please read this.
I will move this to the main section where all the tech questions go, get you some help.
There's deffinitely an issue with having 6.3V on your 5v feed. That tells me that something is wrong right there. Wires crossed,or something.Bad grounds.
As far as the computer is concerned,all the values would be skewed from the sensor readings. High and Low voltage, generally will mean a no-start condition, or very poor running.
Disconnect everything on the 5v circuit and meter the voltage again, if 5v is verified, start plugging in one sensor at a time and remeter every time until the voltage changes. If the voltage drops it will be a bad sensor, if it spikes,and it shouldn't,the wiring on that circuit is probably incorrect.
As far as the continuious run on the fuel pump,that signal comes from the computer as a ground. Two computers with the same symptoms,says there's something in the wiring. That's my thoughts.
As far as the computer is concerned,all the values would be skewed from the sensor readings. High and Low voltage, generally will mean a no-start condition, or very poor running.
Disconnect everything on the 5v circuit and meter the voltage again, if 5v is verified, start plugging in one sensor at a time and remeter every time until the voltage changes. If the voltage drops it will be a bad sensor, if it spikes,and it shouldn't,the wiring on that circuit is probably incorrect.
As far as the continuious run on the fuel pump,that signal comes from the computer as a ground. Two computers with the same symptoms,says there's something in the wiring. That's my thoughts.
Neilcustoms.....sounds like the right direction to head now, thank you for that!
Will get back on this after going over voltages and wiring again.
-Patrick
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Check the crank sensor. Make sure it wasn't damaged....... If there are metal shavings on it..... you might be able to just clean it off, but, replacement is prolly gonna be in your future.
If you have an aftermarket sensor.... these truck are notorious for not liking them.... and refusing to run.
What year truck was the donor for the PCM, and wiring harness?
If you have an aftermarket sensor.... these truck are notorious for not liking them.... and refusing to run.
What year truck was the donor for the PCM, and wiring harness?
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Check the crank sensor. Make sure it wasn't damaged....... If there are metal shavings on it..... you might be able to just clean it off, but, replacement is prolly gonna be in your future.
If you have an aftermarket sensor.... these truck are notorious for not liking them.... and refusing to run.
What year truck was the donor for the PCM, and wiring harness?
If you have an aftermarket sensor.... these truck are notorious for not liking them.... and refusing to run.
What year truck was the donor for the PCM, and wiring harness?
Crank sensor is possible, any chance you know the Ohms test readings for it?
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