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Old 10-26-2013, 07:21 PM
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So was changing out the old plugs on the the 5.9 all was going great till #5. Was working it out and at about 1/4" of threads out it twisted off..... So, I was able to blow out the leftover porcelain from the 1/2" of threads that remain. Right now it has an earplug pushed in it and put the heat shield back so I could have the PB blaster mixed with ATF soak on it over night.

Now my question is if I do have to pull the head do I have to pull the cam and chain and retiming it or can I just pull both manifolds and attached accessories then pull the head and reinstall the head with maybe just a rocker adjustment?

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Old 10-26-2013, 08:52 PM
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:30 AM
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In order to remove the cylinder head, you will need to remove the intake manifold, then the offending cylinder head. The job is not hard, just time consuming.

Just a tip - remove all of the spark plug heat tubes from the heads and throw them away. They are more trouble than they are worth. They allow debris to collect around the base of the spark plug, making the plugs harder to remove later. Also, use anti-seize on the spark plug threads when installing them, so that removal will be painless later.
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:26 AM
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Try an easy out first. No point in pulling the head if you don't have to.
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:46 AM
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^+1... this is pre-made for an easy-out... just make sure the cathode is still there when it comes out... the easy-out will likely push the cathode out of the way, and it might break off.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:40 AM
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I think I see the problem, Bosch platinum plugs.
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:24 PM
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Well after working it with a #5 extractor, a 3/8" drive X 10mm hex (x2), a 1/2" drive X 10mm impact socket, 1/2" ratchet and a 5' cheater bar it came free after an hour of vary slow movements. Bugered the threads just a little which cleaned up nice with a thread chaser and a little grease.

I mocked up another plug so I could have an exact idea of what I was working with, glade I did!

Do wish I could find the one that installed these with no anti- seize.

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Old 10-27-2013, 07:39 PM
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Awesome! And you didn't have to pull the head.
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Nice! Glad the easy-out process worked for you..
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Old 10-27-2013, 08:55 PM
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That's why you replace your spark plugs needlessly like me about once a year
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:22 PM
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That's why you replace your spark plugs needlessly like me about once a year
Ya, had it for 2 months now and taking care of full routine maintenance. If I don't have proof that something was done then I replace it like it hasn't been done. This issue just bit me a good one.

I was starting to ponder Edelbrock heads and a cam, kinda glade I didn't have to go that route right now.
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I always torque the plugs to spec too . Never have a problem taking them out.
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I always torque the plugs to spec too . Never have a problem taking them out.
+1 there's usually always a reason the engineers come up with torque specs, even for little things like spark plugs!
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+1 there's usually always a reason the engineers come up with torque specs, even for little things like spark plugs!
Most people over tighten and also don't replace them when they should.
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What? Are you trying to tell me that using my 3/4 drive ratchet is too much?
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What? Are you trying to tell me that using my 3/4 drive ratchet is too much?
No, that's how you do it. You left out the cheater bar on the end of that 3/4 drive rachet.
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No, that's how you do it. You left out the cheater bar on the end of that 3/4 drive rachet.
Yeah, it's about six feet. Is that long enough?
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A 3 footer is fine, save the 6 footer for taking them out.
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A 3 footer is fine, save the 6 footer for taking them out.
It's tighten till its stops then one more turn past that, right, lmao!
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spark plug torque "specs" is snug

just like oil filters are hand tight
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