Go Back   DodgeForum.com > Dodge Trucks > Dodge Ram > 2nd Gen Ram Tech
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


2nd Gen Ram Tech 1994-2001 Rams: This section is for TECHNICAL discussions only, that involve the 1994 through 2001 Rams. For any non-tech discussions, please direct your attention to the "General discussion/NON-tech" sub sections.

Twin turbo Ram(360)

Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 01-22-2014, 09:39 PM
ProjectTwinTurbo's Avatar
ProjectTwinTurbo ProjectTwinTurbo is offline
Professional
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 119
Default Twin turbo Ram(360)

I'm wanting to Twin Turbo my truck. It's a project in the near future. But I don't wanna spend a lot of money so I'm basically wanting to twin turbo my stock motor. And them I'm going to get a donor and might put a cam and lifters in it and port and polish the heads. Just wanted to know your guys opinions and if you guys know anything about the MPI intake manifolds on these Rams if there's any upgrades I can do or drilling. Thanks.
This ad is not displayed to registered and logged-in members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Dodge Forums!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:10 PM
AppelH AppelH is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Vehicle: 2000 Durango 4x4 5.2
Location: Central Washington
Posts: 532
Default

You want to run twin turbos, but you don't want to spend any money to build the 5.9 to handle it? You cant have both, I don't know how long you expect your motor to handle that, as well as the rest of your drivetrain.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:15 PM
ProjectTwinTurbo's Avatar
ProjectTwinTurbo ProjectTwinTurbo is offline
Professional
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 119
Default

I'm only gna push about 6-8psi in each. But the motor in the Ram now is a stock 360 it's basically my experiment to see what it can handle and I'm going to have another I semi build, just simple things. But when I'm satisfied I'm gna swap.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:17 PM
AppelH AppelH is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Vehicle: 2000 Durango 4x4 5.2
Location: Central Washington
Posts: 532
Default

Why do you want to run twins, it will complicate a already difficult process.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:18 PM
AppelH AppelH is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Vehicle: 2000 Durango 4x4 5.2
Location: Central Washington
Posts: 532
Default

Vs just one I mean. I imagine one will push more than enough boost to destroy the stock 5.9.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:23 PM
ProjectTwinTurbo's Avatar
ProjectTwinTurbo ProjectTwinTurbo is offline
Professional
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 119
Default

I wanna run twins just because it's different and the name. I honestly don't think it'll hurt the block if I don't run too much(which I plan not too) I've done quite a bit of research about turboing a stock motor. And I think the 360 will Handle it just for a month or 2 until the other motor is finished.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:24 PM
ProjectTwinTurbo's Avatar
ProjectTwinTurbo ProjectTwinTurbo is offline
Professional
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 119
Default

I'm running a little bit of boost in each turbo so combine they'd equal one.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:35 PM
HeyYou's Avatar
HeyYou HeyYou is offline
Section Moderator
Dodge Forum Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Vehicle: 1996 Dodge Ram 2500
Location: Adrian, MI
Posts: 34,566
Default

Actually, there are certain advantages to running twins, you can run two smaller turbos, and *******ly eliminate turbo lag.

The two-piece intake isn't gonna like it though. Should swap for an M1, or Hughes Air Gap.

Gonna need some way to supervise fueling as well. You could go with a two, or three-bar MAP system, but, you better have a 96 or newer truck to make programming easier. Other alternative would be some variety of standalone system.

I would stick with 7PSI or less on a stock motor, with a buncha miles on it. In fact, I would be tempted to run around 5PSI, just to get things dialed in, and then see about bumping the boost.

Thing is, this isn't going to be 'cheap' by any stretch of the imagination. JUST the electronics and such to enable it to run is going to be nearly a grand. Plus, you are going to need custom exhaust manifolds for the turbos....... and I haven't seen them in the aftermarket at all....... Hope you have some really good fab skills..... and a deep wallet.

Welcome to DF.
__________________
1996 Ram 2500 5.9 EC/SB Gas, Auto, 4x4, Hughes plenum plate, Kegger mod, double roller timing set, rest is stock. For now.....
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:37 PM
AtomicDog AtomicDog is offline
Record Breaker
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Vehicle: 1996 Dodge Ram 2500 5.9 Magnum 4x4 SLT
Location: Central VA
Posts: 1,002
Default

Please take plenty of pictures and post/share your results here for us. I would love to see you make it happen.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:40 PM
ProjectTwinTurbo's Avatar
ProjectTwinTurbo ProjectTwinTurbo is offline
Professional
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 119
Default

Thanks. But I wanna stick with the fuel injection idea. Just can't find any aftermarkets but I'm just gna run 2 t3 turbos and yeah I'm only gna push a little boost. But as if right now I have everything priced right around 700$ With a little customizing.

If u have any info on where I can find aftermarket intake manifolds for the 2000 rams with fuel injection it would be very appreciative.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:43 PM
ProjectTwinTurbo's Avatar
ProjectTwinTurbo ProjectTwinTurbo is offline
Professional
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 119
Default

I'm going to try to I'm still getting ideas and opinions from all you guys. This is all going to happen In a one car garage.

And also one thing I'm stuck on and haven't really found any info on is would I need to run 2 blow off valves or just 1?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:45 PM
HeyYou's Avatar
HeyYou HeyYou is offline
Section Moderator
Dodge Forum Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Vehicle: 1996 Dodge Ram 2500
Location: Adrian, MI
Posts: 34,566
Default

Both the M1, and Hughes manifolds are MPFI intakes. That's why I suggested them.

What are you doing for exhaust manifolds?

And you still need to be able to compensate for manifold pressure. The current system isn't set up for that. It will just get confused, run really lean, and poke holes in pistons.
__________________
1996 Ram 2500 5.9 EC/SB Gas, Auto, 4x4, Hughes plenum plate, Kegger mod, double roller timing set, rest is stock. For now.....
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:49 PM
ProjectTwinTurbo's Avatar
ProjectTwinTurbo ProjectTwinTurbo is offline
Professional
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 119
Default

For the manifolds I'm getting shorty headers and cutting the flanges off and welding the turbo flanges in so they'll bolt up.

But about them intakes where can I get them at? And there avalable for the 360?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:52 PM
AppelH AppelH is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Vehicle: 2000 Durango 4x4 5.2
Location: Central Washington
Posts: 532
Default

If you can get a twin turbo setup up and running for $700 I will be amazed, unless I misunderstood your post.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:55 PM
ProjectTwinTurbo's Avatar
ProjectTwinTurbo ProjectTwinTurbo is offline
Professional
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 119
Default

It's a very budget build. All the main components are going to be from summit or jegs. The little things that don't matter are from eBay. And also since I'm not pushing mega boost I'm not intercooling it.

But I think I made a mistake. I need a intake for a TB. Not sure if that's called TBI or MPI get those confused. But if just want a after intake for the ram where I can still run my TB
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:56 PM
HeyYou's Avatar
HeyYou HeyYou is offline
Section Moderator
Dodge Forum Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Vehicle: 1996 Dodge Ram 2500
Location: Adrian, MI
Posts: 34,566
Default

Hughes Engines has the air gap. M1 is a chrysler piece, so, any place that sells mopar parts might have 'em. Keep in mind, there are two different flavors. You want the two-barrel style. It's a direct bolt-in replacement for the kegger. Hughes manifold requires some modification of the fuel rail crossover tube.
__________________
1996 Ram 2500 5.9 EC/SB Gas, Auto, 4x4, Hughes plenum plate, Kegger mod, double roller timing set, rest is stock. For now.....
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:58 PM
AppelH AppelH is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Vehicle: 2000 Durango 4x4 5.2
Location: Central Washington
Posts: 532
Default

Well hopefully you can follow through. Most people that I have seen come through with ambitious ideas seem to die out quickly
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:58 PM
ProjectTwinTurbo's Avatar
ProjectTwinTurbo ProjectTwinTurbo is offline
Professional
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 119
Default

So do u have any ideas on where to get them or what exactly I'm suppose to search?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01-22-2014, 10:59 PM
AppelH AppelH is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Vehicle: 2000 Durango 4x4 5.2
Location: Central Washington
Posts: 532
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HeyYou View Post
Hughes Engines has the air gap. M1 is a chrysler piece, so, any place that sells mopar parts might have 'em. Keep in mind, there are two different flavors. You want the two-barrel style. It's a direct bolt-in replacement for the kegger. Hughes manifold requires some modification of the fuel rail crossover tube.
I thought the hughes was pretty much a direct bolt-in, other than swapping stuff over.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 01-22-2014, 11:04 PM
AppelH AppelH is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Vehicle: 2000 Durango 4x4 5.2
Location: Central Washington
Posts: 532
Default

I feel like i heard of a place other than ebay that had some of the M1's but I couldn't for the life of me remember the name.
Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2014, 11:04 PM
 
 
 
Reply




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump

Join DodgeForum
Advertising

Featured Sponsors
Vendor Directory
Our Sponsors
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:36 AM.

Internet Brands, Inc.


Contact Details & Emails