hey guys.

I just got my spider gear set from amazon. After I pulled and cleaned my old spiders, pin and bolt I opened the box and noticed that my new pin is not a solid unit like the one I pulled out..

When I opened the box, the gears were not sealed in the package like they should have been. they were just clanging around in there. I also noticed on the gears that someone had wrote "1" "2" "3" on the gears with a marker. those were the ones not sealed in the package. the one that was still 1/2 sealed had no writing on it.

So before I install these and have something go wrong, I want to make sure I got the right pin, maybe its just a new style since it is not a solid pin like my old one.. here are a few pics.

OLD ON RIGHT, NEW ON LEFT










anyone with experience with the set please let me know. thanks.

 

And this would be a "spun bearing" huh? never encountered one. just checking. Passenger side rear.

 

I don't think the pin is correct. Your axles are held in by those c-clips. With that cutout in the pin, it looks like if it was in the 'right' (wrong?) orientation, it would allow the axle to come in far enough to drop the clip..... which would really suck if you were moving at any kind of speed..

 

that is what I was thinking and worried about.

I contacted amazon and told them everything and they have a new one on its way to me right now, overnighted.

hope the new one is correct as the part # matches Randys ring and pinion website.

 

Let us know what ya get. I suspect that package was opened, and discovered to be wrong.... or, some parts were put in the wrong box..

 

will do. I knew I should have just got my set from Randys, but saving about $40+ made me go the amazon route.


those black marks in my axle housing, is that what a spun bearing looks like? or would that be heat build up? ive never ran across that before on any trucks/cars ive worked on.

my axle shafts don't look too bad where the bearings ride. the driver side is fine, the passenger side has a blue'ish tint to it but looks good otherwise.

well I think its time to go buy a ps4 or xbox one to kill some time tonight while I wait for my parts

 

That's a notched cross pin, definately not a stock replacement if that's what you ordered. The notched pin is used when you switch to a lower ratio gear set (4.56, 4.88 etc.) as an alternative to grinding or shaving a tooth down on the ring gear in order to physically insert the cross pin into the carrier. Lower ratio = smaller pinion gear so the ring must be thicker to maintain proper mesh. The notched pin allows you to put the carrier back in assembled with the pin in place and still have the ability to place the C-clips back in by simply rotating the cross shaft. You rotate the pin so that the notch faces the end of the axle, push the axle in, insert C-clip and pull back, repeat for other side. As you can see in the pic the notched is oriented such that when the cross pin bolt is in place the notch is 90 degrees to the ends of each axle (facing to the front or rear of the vehicle) so they don't pop out. You definately were given the wrong cross pin.

 

thanks Oxy..


Well UPS showed up with my new kit... everything is sealed this time except one axle spider.

as soon as I opened the box, the first thing I seen was this...........

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ugh... i guess i'll go install the set and mess around by hand to see if i can get a c clip to fall out before i hit the road. i would reuse my cross pin, but it is worn pretty well where the bolt goes thru. the pin had a lot of slop in it which i believe was making my spiders move/bind and had play.

wish me luck. hope i don't have to rebuild after this.

 

I called Randy's for the hell of it and asked about their USA standard kit and the cross pin. the guy said that it is designed like that for different ratios like Oxy said. He assured me that I will not lose a axle and be dragging *** down the road.

So out to go throw this new kit in and play with it before I drive off. I hope this will help someone else if they come across this problem and have the same thoughts...

If I drag *** i'll update.

 

installed, I do not believe I will have a problem with clips falling out. the notch is placed perfectly that it will not affect the axles.. I have no play within the smaller gears like I had previously. I did notice that one of my side gears for the axle had enough play (in and out) should I throw a thicker spacer in there?

my old set up had one thin spacer per side gear. I installed the new spacers that were the same thickness. but I believe I could go one size bigger probably on each side gear. I just do not want to throw anything off and mess it all up. Should I just stick with the same thickness I pulled out?