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Old 12-30-2008, 11:17 AM
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Default Rattle in front end driving me nuts (shocks?)

I took it to the dealer and one look at my TM spacer lift and they said nope, your problem..

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It is almost like a loose bolt but I have checked them all, everything is tight. All I can figure is that it is internal to the shock, mostly drivers side but I think some passenger side too. Makes my truck sound like quite the hoopty for year old truck..
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I took it to the dealer and one look at my TM spacer lift and they said nope, your problem..
Take it back and remind them they have to prove that caused the issue to deny you warranty service. Could also mention if this is how their service is you will be finding a new dealer to do business with in the future. I've had my front end worked on under warranty after the TM install, dealer told me if they found it was caused by the kit it wouldn't be fixed unless I paid but otherwise warranty would cover it. Turned out to be blown shocks and bad sway bar bushings which they determined were unrelated and covered.
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His theory was that I spun the seal inside the shock when I took it apart and I can't prove that I didn't so I just gave up. It wasn't like that right after the lift and I have the right tools (press etc).

I thought about going to another dealer but honestly it is a PIA. It is still a guess that it is the shock at all. If I jack the front end up it is still preloaded so I can't rattle anything. I figure if it is the shock all the dealer could do is put another one on that everyone says is crap so I might as well save up for the Rancho's and just do it myself.

BUT like I said, I honestly have no clue what it is still. Figured I'd post up and see if anyone else has seen this.
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Well when my fronts were blown I did get rattling but only on rougher surfaces and bumps. The sway bar bushings can also cause some noise when they go, had the front ones replaced under warranty too and my truck's never even been off-road beyond dirt roads and my backyard at home.
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Well when my fronts were blown I did get rattling but only on rougher surfaces and bumps. The sway bar bushings can also cause some noise when they go, had the front ones replaced under warranty too and my truck's never even been off-road beyond dirt roads and my backyard at home.
The noise is only on bumpy roads or speed bumps but the roads here.. are all bumpy
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Give the sway bar bushings a quick check (or have the dealer do it, doubt he can blame those on the kit). If it's just those that are shot it will be a quicker and easier fix than the shocks, not to mention cheaper
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Have them check the tie rods as they can make quite the chatter on bumpy of ruff roads (if their loose). had both of mine replaced within a year of getting my truck and the noise went away. hope this helps

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they said everything was tight and it must be in the shock but they wouldn't warranty it. I got a call this morning that "my shocks are in" though, weird. Maybe they changed their mind due to the bailout lol

If they charge me I won't do it, I'll get the rancho's and do it myself. If not why not..

I was on the highway coming home the other day and I was bouncing like a rowboat in the ocean and I look to the lane next to me and this dodge 1500 didn't seem to be moving at all...

It's been like that since I bought it though, it bottoms out on the highway!
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Remind them of the McCarran-Ferguson Act.
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Do the Ranchos anyway. Best single mod you can do to these trucks. I replaced my tie rod ends at 36000 miles. Lots of verticle wear do to the crap oem shocks. They made lots of noice similar to your description.
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Remind them of the McCarran-Ferguson Act.
Well let's say they can prove it is my fault and then it is my bill that I sure don't want. I don't see how it could be or how they could prove it but no doubt I put in that lift.

BTW truck as about 15k on it..
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I hate to say it, but if you think it might be from the lift...

pull it off and take it back in...
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Remind them of the McCarran-Ferguson Act.
The "what" act? Do you mean Magnuson-Moss by chance?

Warranty is against "defects in manufacturers materials and workmanship".
Not modified items.
I would reject it too. So would most of you if it was your items and they were modified.
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The "what" act? Do you mean Magnuson-Moss by chance?

Warranty is against "defects in manufacturers materials and workmanship".
So, ****ty OEM shocks or ****ty OEM front-end components?
Sounds like manufacturers materials to me!
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So, ****ty OEM shocks or ****ty OEM front-end components?
Sounds like manufacturers materials to me!
Yes, modified with a leveling kit on it.

So tell me how it is Dodges fault? Argue all you want with the dealer, the proof is bolted on the struts.

I love when people complain about the front shocks. Some have problems, and some don't. Yet I have never seen it mentioned that the shocks were farmed out to more than one manufacturer to be made.
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Because Dodge seems to have a problem with thinking, "Well, these front end parts 'will do'." Instead of thinking, "Hey, we're making a *truck* here, maybe we should make stuff strong!"

When they have problems well before they should, even on stock vehicles, that should say something
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Because Dodge seems to have a problem with thinking, "Well, these front end parts 'will do'." Instead of thinking, "Hey, we're making a *truck* here, maybe we should make stuff strong!"

When they have problems well before they should, even on stock vehicles, that should say something
Have these shocks/struts caused any accidents? Not that I am aware of.

Are they a safety hazard? No.

Do they "wear out too soon"? Depends on who you ask.

What is too soon? Stock shocks/struts for the most part suck.
You get 30k out of a set, consider yourself lucky. That is the way it is, not just Dodge, but all companies.

Do they "ride bad"? Again, depends on who you ask. My truck rides great. Smooth and not bouncy at all.
Some may hate that and want a "truck" ride. All bumps and pebbles felt.

Others want it to ride like a couch. Smooth as a babies azz.

You can't make everyone happy. So it is as it has been for the past so many years, a compromise.

Premature wear? It's all about Planed obsolescence.

It just has to last "so long", and that is it. Meaning until warranty is up. Then anything after is all "a bonus".

If the cars and trucks were made to last "forever", how many would they sell? They, like all manufacturers in the world design items to last only "so long". Planed obsolescence.

Let take these stupid shocks/struts. Some like myself have had no problems in 25k+. Some have had problems much sooner.

Some drive ****ty roads, and off roads.
Some drive highway only.
Some have shocks/struts made at one plant by one company.
Some have shocks/struts made at other plants by another company.

What we see here on these net boards is only a very small fraction of things. I wonder how many of them have bad shocks/struts? Not as many as you think.

The ratio of bad to good shocks/struts in no where as bad as it is made out to be. You only hear the "squeaky wheel" as it gets the grease. Those with no problems are not yelling "My shocks/struts are ok".

I have never had a new vehicle that has had the factory shocks/struts last much past 30k. Most I have replaced by 20k.

Nothing has changed, just people wanting things to last forever.

If the original poster had the dealer say they "spun a seal", well that is very easy to see. Even a caveman could see it.

So if they can show him this proof, well then that is that.
Burden of proof. If you are right, prove it. If dealer is right, they will prove it.

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The reason I no longer work as an ASE Master Tech is that I got sick of "customers" tell me what is wrong with their car.

If they knew so much, why didn't they fix it?

I would try and please them, do as they ask when they "Tell me what is wrong". Yet when it was not what they said, and they had to pay for me to fix the real problem, well you know how fast they said they would not pay for me to "fix what they wanted fixed"?

You wasted time by "telling me what to do", now you pay for that time and the time for the real fix, period.

The Honda dealer I worked at had the worst kids, followed by those who drove trucks. Because of this, I left this crap behind.
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I have never had a new vehicle that has had the factory shocks/struts last much past 30k. Most I have replaced by 20k.
I would not consider that the norm at all, in my past vehicles alone:
1995 Chevy Silverado Z71 extended cab, 156,000 miles when I sold it, stock shocks, rode fine. (Occasional off-road)
1994 Acura Integra GSR 196,000 miles on stock shocks, no issues there handled like a dream. (Some Autocross)

My dad's 2002 Ram 4x4 quad cab, almost to 100,000 miles, no problems with the shocks yet.

My mom's 2001 Ford Exploder AWD, 112,000 miles shocks are starting to go.

My 2005 Dakota 4x4 SLT club cab has already had 3 front shocks replaced under warranty, one because the nut holding the strut together was crossthreaded and they broke it removing it, 2 because they were blown, no off-roading.

In my opinion with our Dakotas Dodge built a great truck and put a crappy quality front end on it.
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I was tearing into my old Dakotas front end, and the cheapy Monroe shocks I bought, with less than 20,000 miles on them, are bad. I blame myself there, for not ponying up some extra $$.
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I am at almost 60K on stock suspension components... The only reason I am looking into the ranchos is because I want a little stiffer ride. I dont mind the ride now, but would like a little stiffer ride is all.
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