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Old 04-19-2013, 11:18 AM
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So I'm seriously considering regearing to 4.10 and I'm trying to figure what to get.
I have the standard Chrylser 9.25 rear axle and so I'm wondering if these will work.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mg...0/applications
Also, to regear both axles, which I plan to do, do I just get two sets of ring and pinion gears or is there anything special I need for the front?

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Old 04-19-2013, 11:30 AM
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:36 AM
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Yeah, sorry forgot to mention that. Which bring up another bring, I wanna save up and get a limited slip installed in both axles but I don't what I need.
This is what I was looking at.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aub-542070/overview/

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All I know is: 1) its expensive to have them installed. and 2) make sure you get the same gears for the front, which I think is hard to find.
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:44 PM
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Well, I'd imagine I'd just need to buy two sets of 4.10 ring and pinion gears, one for the front and one for the back. But my problem is figuring out what to. Like on summit racing's website, it says the gears are for a Chrysler 9.25 axle, which I know I have but I don't know if there's anything specific I might need since it's a Dakota. And with the front, I would guess it's like regearing the rear, but like I said, I don't know everything I need.
My biggest problem is being new to vehicle modifications and not knowing what I need.

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Hopefully someone will chime in. I dont mess with gears.
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So, you have a 9.25" rear end and a Chrysler 8" IFS front differential. Hence, you need to find the corresponding ratio for the front. Keep in mind that you may want to consider taking this opportunity to replace your bearings and seals.

Randy's ring and pinion is a very helpful site.

http://www.ringpinion.com/
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So, I'm looking at about $600 in parts. Anybody got a guess for labor? I remember someone saying it's usually around $1000 to $1200 but I can't remember if that's parts and labor.
Plus I also want to put a limited slip in, too. So another $500 for that. Any idea what labor is on that?
And I guess I need to save up a little more, since it's just $1100 for the parts I want.

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Easier when towing, which is almost every day, and a lot of it's city driving so it'll help with getting truck moving off of stoplights. And every once in a while, we have to off road and I've gotten stuck before because just one tire was spinning.
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You'll need two Master Install kits as well. Do not get a minor or standard install kit, you will need a Master. They typically run $100-$200 per axle.

LSDs have gone up since I bought mine. A few years ago when I had a 2001 Ram 1500 (same rear end as V8 Dakotas), I bought a Auburn LSD for $350 or so. I see they are up to almost $500 most places now. Its still sitting in my garage, waiting for the install (I am not going to regear myself, just have the LSD put in someday).

A good set of gears will cost you at least $200 per axle. Do not go cheap on gears, cheap = noisy and more potential issues. Do lots of searches on brands of gears, see which ones get the best reviews. Thats $400 minimum, probably more. A single Auburn LSD for the rear will cost you $450-$500. Thats $900 minimum. Add two master install kits that have the bearings and other items you need. Thats $1200.

Add labor for the rear axle, which two years ago when I last checked, was about $400. The front axle will be more, as it requires more things to be moved out of the way to get to it. On a 2001 Ram 1500, it was around $600. Not sure what it'll be on a Dakota, but I bet it'll be similar. And you cannot do the work yourself unless you have been trained to do it, putting gears in correctly means having a very specific set of tools. Just throwing them in there will not let them mesh correctly and make things seize, break apart, or blow up later down the road.

You are looking at $2200 easy, probably more. I almost pulled the trigger on it with my 2001 Ram, hence why I have all these numbers already.

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Well, for that price, I might be better off just trading in my Dakota for a fullsize Dodge, Ford, or Chevy that has a LSD and a lower gearing. My payment would be the same or less, too. Dang, this got real expensive real fast.
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Also consider that an LSD does not help "that" much with loss of traction with one tire. Most off-road guys would tell you that a LSD is good for two things: getting stupid numb/ruining your life and traction on wet pavement. If you have an open diff and want something cheap, roll with a Richmond Powertrax locker. If one were taking out the open carrier and replacing the whole differential, get a Detroit locker. They both operate the same way, but the Detroit does not test the strength limits of the open carrier. However, unless you decide to run a Hemi or built 4BT + 37" tires, a lunchbox locker will be just fine for you.
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Yeah, I think I'm just gonna save a little and trade up for a bigger truck.
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I did the full swap in 2005 and it cost 1600., This is what the gear shop did to my 2005 dakota, front rebuild $903(gears,brg kit axle seals,r and r the front axle,oil,labor and tax)i assume it has ifs in the front. rear axle $761(gears brg kit axle seals,oil tax and labor.
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