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Old 11-06-2013, 04:47 PM
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I've been trying to find new lower control arm bolts, the ones on the truck are completely stuck. There is no way they are coming out without destroying them. They are NOT available from any Dodge dealership or other online source. I have been in contact with corporate and they were supposed to be available in the beginning of November now he just said they won't be available until January. I have tried different online vendors and ebay. No one has them. The truck has been sitting for 2 months now. Corporate offered me a 6% off certificate for a new dodge truck and a fair KBB value for trade in. Unfortunately I can't afford a brand new truck.

Does anyone have one spare bolt lying around? I know I can have a machine shop make them if I had something for them to copy or the specs. Corporate refused to send me the specs on the bolts. At work we just had our machine shop make up 6 special metric bolts for a heavy duty gearbox, which were no longer available. Any help appreciated.
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have you tried a wanted ad in Craig's list.

if not a junkyard

Many people junk their own cars now on Craig's list if they have space to park it.

pulling one off just to help out is no easy task and don't think its going to happen.
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:26 PM
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I didn't ask anyone to pull a bolt off their truck, that's too much work. I know a lot of people keep parts, wondering if someone has one laying around.
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:38 PM
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You could try going to any auto parts store that has a bushing for the lower C-arm and use that as a guide then go under and measure the lengthen of the bolt???

As close as it gets!

Grade 8 I'm sure with a corrosion coating for rust I would also not use all thread get as much heavy steel as you can

http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Fastener_tech
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Like this only longer less threads

http://www.wreproducts.com/5_8_tibolts.htm

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Old 11-06-2013, 06:47 PM
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I thought these had the can bolt washer on it?
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Junk yard or someone parting out a truck is best bet.
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Parting out would be good.....going to a pick and pull does me nothing. I can't get the bolts out with a 3/4 rand and heat. I destroy the bushings which is fine, I have all new lower control arms. I still need the bolts.
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:49 PM
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There should be enough thread sticking out that you can measure the diameter. And the length is easy to measure without removing them.

You should be able to find them on this page unless they have adjusting cams on them (but I don't remember if they do).

BTW, It would be helpful if you told us exactly what your truck is (What year? 2WD or 4WD, etc.).
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In that case, I'm moving this thread to the 3rd generation forum where you'll hopefully get the answers you need.
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Hey! How many do you need?! I had a good one left over from when I did mine, I will have to check to see if I still have it.
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Found it.

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The bolts are definitely cam bolts and the nut is special as well. If you look through my posts, you'll find a thread on when I needed to change bolts, bushings etc and you'll find pictures and descriptions of those components there. The cam is used in your alignment, so no cam, no alignment - a standard grade 8 won't work.

When I got my replacement parts, I was able to get new bolts from the dealership, but I couldn't get the nuts, so I had to take care of how I cut the old bolts that were seized so that I didn't damage the nut with it's associated cam washer - I show this in that thread as well.

There's a parts manual in the sticky section of this forum that has these in it - take that page with you to the dealership and see what you can find. For sure, you won't get any after-market or generic bolts that will do the trick. If you look at the pic of that bolt that FrenicX posted, you'll see a shape at the end (the flat areas by the thread) - these are there to align the cam washer at that end, so if you want to get a machine shop to make you some, they need to have that feature as well.
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Before you cut the bolts (you need to cut both ends, the shaft is rusted and expanded, and fused onto the bushing), mark the cam and the slotted frame on the truck where the cam sits - this will allow you to put the new ones on in the same place so that your alignment will be close to OK and then you'll need to get a full front end alignment to iron out any small differences.

If you use an angle grinder to cut the bolts, wear face and hand protection - that grinder can jump out at you really fast and in those close quarters, your face is a good target.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:55 PM
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I need that bolt. I'll pay you for it.
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Found it.

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Just name a price I'll take it. I can even send it back to you if you want it back. The machine shop I use should be able to make that. I'll have them make a drawing and save the specs in case other people need these. As far as I know from corporate they are not supposed to be available from dodge until January, but they also said that for November so who knows. Does anyone know if these bolts are hardened? I don't think I'll have them coated, I'll just anti seize them.

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Old 11-07-2013, 08:04 PM
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Just whatever shipping is, I won't need it for anything. What's your zipcode?
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:10 PM
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The bolts are available, at least in Canada. The nuts and outside washers can't be found, but you can reuse the original nuts and washers.

You will also need new bushings or the entire lower control arm. There were a few people that posted they had found part numbers for those bushings - I believe there are 2 sizes in each control arm.
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Here's a link to my thread on lower control arm issues.
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