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Old 12-11-2013, 09:28 PM
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Default Cold Air Intakes, AirAid or K&N?

I'm planning to get a cold air intake on my 2013 Dodge Durango 5.7 . and I have 2 options AirAid and K&N. the AirAid comes as filter and it's box without the silicon tube which is not a complete cold air intake kit and generates 16 hp (expected 12 hp) and K&N comes as a complete kit filter, box and silicon tube, generates 17 hp (expected 13 hp). I've tried both filters before, K&N on my old '04 GMC Suburban 5.3 and AirAid on my old '09 Tahoe 5.3 . the major difference was the AirAid sounded better (due to the larger filter size) and the performance was about the same for both filters. but both of em were complete air intake kits. for the Durango, I wouldn't hesitate to go for the AirAid if it was a complete kit. both of em retails about the same. so did anybody try those filters on the 3rd gen Durangos 5.7? any recommendations? they fit Grand Cherokees as well so Jeep owners are welcomed to contribute in this thread (if we're lucky enough to have them browsing this forum section).
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Old 12-11-2013, 09:41 PM
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another question. some say: every vehicle with an airintake has to be tuned. cause due to the larger amount of air gained from the airintake the throttle body response and it's opening size has to be calibrated to the new airintake over stock calibration. otherwise you'll end up loosing high speed but gaining horsepower. unlike if you'd have the vehicle tuned up. then you'll gain both high speed and horsepower. on my old 2 vehicles I didn't loose anything cause both of em were tuned. and this time I don't wanna tune my Durango. experts, opinions please.

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What about a dry AFE?


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What about a dry AFE?
was the first place I've searched in. but when I ran out the search for: gas, 2013, Dodge, Durango, 5.7 nothing came out but the rectangular filter. no CAIs.

also I prefer wet filters cause based on what I've heard they last longer than the dry ones and they can be cleaned all the time with a cleaner kit of course unlike the dry ones (which I didn't try before) the dry filter can't be cleaned and has to be changed from time to time.

why did you recommend the AFE? cause of the sound or horsepower?
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quality of kit is very important, fit n finish and the overall design. The dry is simple washed off and allowed to dry. I fell oil type are a possible cause for issues at dealer. Excess oil on the filter can be an issue.
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quality of kit is very important, fit n finish and the overall design. The dry is simple washed off and allowed to dry. I fell oil type are a possible cause for issues at dealer. Excess oil on the filter can be an issue.
good to know. ok, what application did you use? Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7? as long as I didn't find any for my Durango. if yes was it a direct fit or did you do any customization?

did you tune up your Dueango after getting the CAI? if not. did you notice any increase in the power?
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is there a difference on a 14 Limited 3.6? I wanted to put an intake on ,ome but i dont know much.
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Dubking, Its the same one as the 2011-2013 Jeep. Most I see do list it as fitting the Durango. It is even designed to use the factory air scoop.
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Another vote for AFE dry. Just put drop in AFE dry in my Charger RT too.
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ordered a volant, mainly because i like the way it is built, should be here today, and hopefully install soon.
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another question. some say: every vehicle with an airintake has to be tuned. cause due to the larger amount of air gained from the airintake the throttle body response and it's opening size has to be calibrated to the new airintake over stock calibration. otherwise you'll end up loosing high speed but gaining horsepower. unlike if you'd have the vehicle tuned up. then you'll gain both high speed and horsepower. on my old 2 vehicles I didn't loose anything cause both of em were tuned. and this time I don't wanna tune my Durango. experts, opinions please.

IMO you don't need a tune with an air intake or exhaust or combo of both. The computer system is very advanced and will make alterations based on air flow etc. It tunes to make sure the A/F ratio is correct.

I had an old 5.0 with a cam, heads, intake, injectors, Mass air meter, exhaust blah blah blah
with the factory computer and had NO ISSUES. Car ran 12's all day long and got 21mpg.

Now it may be beneficial with a cam, supercharger etc but not an exhaust intake whatever.





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You don't NEED it but you are missing out on some additional power without a tune when adding bolt on mods. Anyone who data logs can tell you that.

I have enjoyed the afe intake. Good build quality. I enjoy not having to oil the filter. I ran K&N on all of my last vehicles and never had a problem. Some of the fastest RAM's on other forums are running the K&N set up, amongst other things. lol
People that have issues with oiled filters usually over oil the filter media after cleaning so take what you hear or read with a grain of salt.

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You don't NEED it but you are missing out on some additional power without a tune when adding bolt on mods. Anyone who data logs can tell you that.

IMO 5-10hp is not worth is for the $$ especially on a heavy vehicle like the Durango, now if the shift pattern is improved that alone may be worth it . Im sure I left some power on the table but not enough to justify the cost back then. IF it was supercharged or turbo'd, no doubt, but it was NA. NA vehicles that are not heavily modified rarely see much useable gains...

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Not heavily modified? Cams headers exhaust intake injectors is some large cash to spend not to get the most out of them. At that point what's an extra $500? lol

Different strokes for different folks I guess. Back to the subject.......if I was choosing between an Airraid or K&N it would be K&N for me. Never had a single issue with them and they are priced right for what they are.
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Not heavily modified? Cams headers exhaust intake injectors is some large cash to spend not to get the most out of them. At that point what's an extra $500? lol

Different strokes for different folks I guess. Back to the subject.......if I was choosing between an Airraid or K&N it would be K&N for me. Never had a single issue with them and they are priced right for what they are.
Mine was...I was referencing the Durango ....at the time 15 years ago, I didn't see piggybacks that did a much better job than the factory ECU and I did not want to go to a custom air density system with a laptop etc. I knew a few that had piggybacks and seemed like there was always an issue here or there, while I just jumped in my ol 1979 and fired her up every time with out issue(I converted it to EFI with a donor wrecked 1990 and grafted the harness on to the 1979 harness.)

Anyway as you said, I have hijacked this thread enough lol
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90% will go for the dry AFE CAI. as many guys over this forum recommended it. while on some other forum they recommended Volant.
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I'm thinking of selling my near new Volant. Guess I'm not a huge fan of extra roar under throttle. Quality wise I think it's as well built as factory.
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I went Volant dry... The install was all of about 20 min tops LOL.. easy as pie..
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Volant dry here too. Best quality and closed top to help heat soak in the summer. Unfortunately Whatever gains we are seeing with this in the winter with the nice cold air is minimized by the crap winter gas. Ugh. I hate mixed gas.

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