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Old 01-08-2014, 09:10 PM
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Found a '14 in Granite that's RWD and loaded. They gave me a price of $41k plus tax, but a buddy of mine works for the particular dealer group, so he's going to call them tomorrow and see what he can work out. If I can get it around $38k I think I'll pull the trigger.
"Fully loaded" has different meanings. The r/t base model is fully loaded, then you have options like the tow package 1k, sunroof 1k, adaptive cruise(tech package) 2k, ect........
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Old 01-08-2014, 09:16 PM
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drive them both and do what your heart tells you, the rear tail lights, big touch screen, and red stitching in seats in my '14 R/T had me on my knees. I got $6K of MSRP on a fully loaded one on the 4th one I drove
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:42 PM
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I drove both and went with the 14 R/T. I love the interior better as well as the lighting. Front and back. The tranny is a night and day difference I think. With trade I got 12k off the msrp.
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"Fully loaded" has different meanings. The r/t base model is fully loaded, then you have options like the tow package 1k, sunroof 1k, adaptive cruise(tech package) 2k, ect........
Nappa leather with tech and tow package.
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Old 01-08-2014, 11:29 PM
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Nappa leather with tech and tow package.
Bought mine last week :
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I replaced my 2013 Hemi Citadel with a 2014 R/T. No comparison. It's finally a car that can compete. I suspect the 11 to 13's are going to start to really depreciate. Went from a 67 to an 83 in Consumer Reports.
In the long term I don't think so. The Explorer is a good guide. In '06 it went through a significant refresh with new more-powerful engine (V8), new transmission (6-speed) and new interior. 2003-2008 KBB value increased $1,000 to $1,800 per year for identical models, except for a $2,400 jump in 2006. So that tells us that a significant refresh is worth around $1,000 in the long term.

And the Durango just went through a much less comprehensive refresh.

The Consumer Reports jump in ratings for '14 is impressive. It's now at the top of the large sport utility vehicle ratings which includes the Traverse and Flex but not the Highlander, Pilot, Explorer etc. for some strange reason. But remember their last experience with a Durango was an AWD '11 when it first came out, presumably before the tranny software was updated. Not against a properly operating '12 or '13 5-speed with the latest software from the factory. And their only dig against the 5-speed in '11 was that "it can be unresponsive at times, not downshifting quickly enough when you want more power." The 5-speed in my March '13 build '13 is responsive enough for my needs.
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Bought mine last week : 2014 r/t Nappa Tow package Tech package Sunroof 40,270.00.
Is that an out the door price or a sales price? Just curious to see if I'll be getting a fair deal.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:11 AM
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Nope, gotta add TT&L
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:24 AM
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In the long term I don't think so. The Explorer is a good guide. In '06 it went through a significant refresh with new more-powerful engine (V8), new transmission (6-speed) and new interior. 2003-2008 KBB value increased $1,000 to $1,800 per year for identical models, except for a $2,400 jump in 2006. So that tells us that a significant refresh is worth around $1,000 in the long term.

And the Durango just went through a much less comprehensive refresh.

The Consumer Reports jump in ratings for '14 is impressive. It's now at the top of the large sport utility vehicle ratings which includes the Traverse and Flex but not the Highlander, Pilot, Explorer etc. for some strange reason. But remember their last experience with a Durango was an AWD '11 when it first came out, presumably before the tranny software was updated. Not against a properly operating '12 or '13 5-speed with the latest software from the factory. And their only dig against the 5-speed in '11 was that "it can be unresponsive at times, not downshifting quickly enough when you want more power." The 5-speed in my March '13 build '13 is responsive enough for my needs.
Very well said. Let's all remember, a vehicle is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. There are tons of folks out there that would rather have a 13 R/T than a 14 V6 as an example. Not a hard sell at all. I always laugh at folks talking about depreciation because all vehicles depreciate, it's really one of the worst investments one can make. I think that underscores the importance of getting what you like and not worrying about depreciation and others opinions of what you drive. If depreciation is an issue, get a 87 Hyaundai Excel and call it good. It can't depreciate any lower until it hits the scrap. lol
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Nappa leather with tech and tow package.
I got the exact same thing. Paid $42,800 and that included tax, title, and license. But that was with EP pricing and $2000 off in manufacturer incentives. You'll love the car. If MPGs was your major worry, you made the right choice with the 8 speed on the 2014 IMO.

Just don't judge the MPGs off of the first 300 miles. During the break in period, ECO mode has no effect and you'll see MPGs as low as 8 (not kidding). After the first 300 miles though, the ECO mode will kick in and deactivate cylinders like it's supposed to and you'll see a huge bump.
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I got the exact same thing. Paid $42,800 and that included tax, title, and license. But that was with EP pricing and $2000 off in manufacturer incentives. You'll love the car. If MPGs was your major worry, you made the right choice with the 8 speed on the 2014 IMO. Just don't judge the MPGs off of the first 300 miles. During the break in period, ECO mode has no effect and you'll see MPGs as low as 8 (not kidding). After the first 300 miles though, the ECO mode will kick in and deactivate cylinders like it's supposed to and you'll see a huge bump.
Hoping my buddy can get me employee pricing and also there's a $1000 rebate, so I may get a fair deal. It's also depends on whether or not they'll give me a fair amount for my wrangler. I'm about even on it, so we'll see if they lowball.
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Old 01-09-2014, 10:46 AM
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Hoping my buddy can get me employee pricing and also there's a $1000 rebate, so I may get a fair deal. It's also depends on whether or not they'll give me a fair amount for my wrangler. I'm about even on it, so we'll see if they lowball.
Just make sure you see the actual invoice with the EP price on there and that they're taking the incentive off of that price. That's how they should be doing it, but a lot of dealers are pretty shifty. I had to go through 3 dealerships before the last one actually got it correct. And that's the one that got my business. I really wish the dealerships weren't independently owned. It leads to a lot of these issues and uninformed buyers get screwed. And, unfortunately, that leads to people disliking Chrysler when, in reality, it's the dealer not following the proper rules and screwing the customer.

There was a poster on here that was getting the run around with regard to vehicle replacement from his dealer and they were trying to take the discount off the MSRP when it should have been off invoice. The pursuit of the almighty dollar has really corrupted a ton of dealers and sooner or later it's going to bite Chrysler in the ***.

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Neither. The Durango is the worse vehicle I have ever owned. I just traded mine in.
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Neither. The Durango is the worse vehicle I have ever owned. I just traded mine in.
you have a 2011, basically the first of the durango refresh, i don't think its fair to compare the beta testers to the 2014 models.
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Just make sure you see the actual invoice with the EP price on there and that they're taking the incentive off of that price. That's how they should be doing it, but a lot of dealers are pretty shifty. I had to go through 3 dealerships before the last one actually got it correct. And that's the one that got my business. I really wish the dealerships weren't independently owned. It leads to a lot of these issues and uninformed buyers get screwed. And, unfortunately, that leads to people disliking Chrysler when, in reality, it's the dealer not following the proper rules and screwing the customer. There was a poster on here that was getting the run around with regard to vehicle replacement from his dealer and they were trying to take the discount off the MSRP when it should have been off invoice. The pursuit of the almighty dollar has really corrupted a ton of dealers and sooner or later it's going to bite Chrysler in the ***.
I know all about it, I work for a lender that provides financing to dealerships. See shady stuff everyday. It's pretty corrupt.
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Just make sure you see the actual invoice with the EP price on there and that they're taking the incentive off of that price. That's how they should be doing it, but a lot of dealers are pretty shifty. I had to go through 3 dealerships before the last one actually got it correct. And that's the one that got my business. I really wish the dealerships weren't independently owned. It leads to a lot of these issues and uninformed buyers get screwed. And, unfortunately, that leads to people disliking Chrysler when, in reality, it's the dealer not following the proper rules and screwing the customer.

There was a poster on here that was getting the run around with regard to vehicle replacement from his dealer and they were trying to take the discount off the MSRP when it should have been off invoice. The pursuit of the almighty dollar has really corrupted a ton of dealers and sooner or later it's going to bite Chrysler in the ***.
Yup that was me .. and thanks to cooler heads *my wife* there was no way we were taking that bait ..
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Just don't judge the MPGs off of the first 300 miles. During the break in period, ECO mode has no effect and you'll see MPGs as low as 8 (not kidding). After the first 300 miles though, the ECO mode will kick in and deactivate cylinders like it's supposed to and you'll see a huge bump.
no kidding, i'm at 600 miles in my r/t, and i've averaged 12.4 mpg in the 600 miles so far. i get 12.5 on my 2011 ford expedition with 22" tires and eco-unfriendly semi offroad tires.
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no kidding, i'm at 600 miles in my r/t, and i've averaged 12.4 mpg in the 600 miles so far. i get 12.5 on my 2011 ford expedition with 22" tires and eco-unfriendly semi offroad tires.
Something is wrong. Is there no highway use in that?
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no kidding, i'm at 600 miles in my r/t, and i've averaged 12.4 mpg in the 600 miles so far. i get 12.5 on my 2011 ford expedition with 22" tires and eco-unfriendly semi offroad tires.
I would get that looked at even if it's city driving (I see you are in 10304, betta lock ya door) , unless you are sitting at lights for extended periods of time.

The worst I have ever gotten out of a tank, hand calcualted was 13.7MPG and that was me doing some "spirited" driving. lol
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