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Old 05-19-2013, 08:56 PM
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pacesetter long tubes offer a great combination of value and performance. Ceramic coated ones will run you around 450-500 bucks. you could get perhaps a touch more performance out of a high dollar set, but the pacesetters are pretty hard to beat.
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Old 05-19-2013, 09:44 PM
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Thanks man. It's funny you say long tubes and someone else told me shorties, lol.
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Shorties are good for low end torque. The only reason most people dont really like shorties is that they provide most of their gains down low which doesn't show up on a dyno. LTs will give you a gain in HP but it'll be up in band. So if you plan on racing and spending alot of time above 3-4K RPM then LTs are the best but for towing and everyday stuff I would say shorties. I plan to get shorties because I would prefer more TQ the HP
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I know conventional wisdom will tell you at least sometimes that shorties are better for low end, but there are a lot of people who say that LT's will give you a better increase all the way across the board, including low end and with quite a big advantage higher up.

Here is a nice write up (there are more too if you just do a google search) showing gibson shorties vs some LT's, it shows the LT's with a power advantage all the way across the board.

http://www.fourwheeler.com/techartic..._long_headers/
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Anyone that says shorties are good for low end torque either are mistaken or aren't reading their graph right. Long tubes are better for low end torque, and gains across the board.
The only real benefit to shorties is their size and relative ease of install.
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Awesome, so long tubes it is. Time to start my research on brands plus the rest of the exhaust whether it be y pipe or x pipe and what muffler. I just put on a glasspack after removing my flowmaster.
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If you've only got one pipe currently and 2 o2 sensors, doing an upgraded y-pipe would be easier. Unless you want to go true dual, which, unless you have supporting mods, really isn't necessary.
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Old 05-20-2013, 06:24 PM
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I don't have supporting mods yet. I'm getting stationed in Germany for three years which means my truck stays here in the states at my dad's house. So while i'm in Germany I will be ordering parts one at a time the entire time I'm gone so when I get back, I have a ton of things to do to her! lol
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The stock y-pipe really isn't that bad. Depending on where you live will dictate what you can do with exhaust.
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Old 05-20-2013, 06:37 PM
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Im not too concerned with local laws seeing as how i move every few years.
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lol
You should be even more so.
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I'd have to change my truck every few years if I worried about them! lol
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Then just don't mess with stuff you really shouldn't, IE, keep it Federally legal.

It's just easier to deal with as far as inspections, law enforcement, and shops should you need something done.
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You can go long and still pass inspection, everywhere except California. Takes a little work, but the cats can be moved back and then all you need to do is extend the rear 02 sensor wires about 14". CARB technically won't let you move the cats from the stock location.

I did this way back in '06 and have yet to generate a single emission code.

I also agree that LTs outperform short tubes across the board. The reason there is perception that short tubes are better down low is the same argument that stock exhaust manifolds are better than LTs down low. Your "butt dyno" feels the resistance of blowback (back pressure), but if you hook up to a dyno, you'd see that scavenging those gasses lets the engine produce more power without having to work as hard down low to push those gasses out of the cylinder...
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The stock y-pipe really isn't that bad. Depending on where you live will dictate what you can do with exhaust.
You lost some credibility by making this statement. The stock Y pipe is a crimped POS compared to aftermarket Y pipes such as the Magnaflow
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You lost some credibility by making this statement. The stock Y pipe is a crimped POS compared to aftermarket Y pipes such as the Magnaflow
My mistake. I was thinking the later y-pipes were better than the 2nd gen y's

Cut me some slack here. I don't own a 3rd gen.
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My mistake. I was thinking the later y-pipes were better than the 2nd gen y's

Cut me some slack here. I don't own a 3rd gen.
Yeah, they baaad...its like a dang s curve. No worries though
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:23 PM
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My mistake. I was thinking the later y-pipes were better than the 2nd gen y's

Cut me some slack here. I don't own a 3rd gen.

Yeah, ddude, they pretty fu*kin' restrictive. It's all good, everybody gets a mulligan once in a while...
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Yeah, ddude, they pretty fu*kin' restrictive. It's all good, everybody gets a mulligan once in a while...
Point of view, my man. I know what mine looks like, and the pipe on my dad's Ram is a little larger...so I assumed it was better.
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