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Old 03-06-2008, 10:06 PM
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So this problem has started to irritate me more lately. I bought my truck with Goodyear Eagle LS2s on it, and I'm definitely not crazy about the tires, but I can afford anything new right now. It had a high speed shake, so I had my coworker rotate and balance all four tires. Hit the freeway, and it was still shaking. I found the warranty reciept from Discount Tire (ugh, competitors!) so I went over, they balanced the tires, found that each took about an ounce. Hit the freeway again, STILL shaking. Randy (HemiRiden) suggested that it was the driveshaft that needed to be balanced. Called the dealership, they said they not only do NOT balance driveshafts, but that 02-03 half ton rams "drive like 3500's" and will always have this high speed shake.

Is there any truth to this?
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:13 PM
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i dont know if i could live with their answer of its just shaking i think its all tires, balanced corectly? how many mi on truck? im at 43,000 and its virgin tight lol
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:22 PM
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i dont know if i could live with their answer of its just shaking i think its all tires, balanced corectly? how many mi on truck? im at 43,000 and its virgin tight lol
LOL. It's got 53k miles on it. The tires are pretty chopped up from the previous owner driving them for so long out of balance, but Discount doesn't seem to want to warranty them out. I really dislike these tires too...too mild of a highway tread. I'd but some Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revos on there from work if I could afford it...

There's nothing mechanically wrong with the truck either. I've had it up in the air and had several people check it in addition to myself.
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:28 PM
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I have an 02 with 95000 miles and I do not have any shakes at high speed. May want to get some things checked like shocks or your front suspension. It could be any number of things but I could not settle on someone saying that that is common.
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LOL. It's got 53k miles on it. The tires are pretty chopped up from the previous owner driving them for so long out of balance
I think you pretty much answered your question there...
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:40 PM
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I had the same problem on my 95 2500...I rotated the tires and got an alignmentand the truck shook pretty bad...took it back to the shop and thethey couldnt fix it. So i put the tires back the way they were and it got rid of the shake. I know its not a good answer... but if you dont like the tires andtheir alreadychopped up...its an idea (albeit not a good one) Someone suggested to me that maybe one of my rims was bent... because when i went very slow (3-4 mph) it felt like the truck was wobbling. Also might be worth taking a look
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Old 03-06-2008, 11:00 PM
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Well. I think the dealer is full of **** and is just trying to get rid of you! These trucks don't shake at high speeds. At least mine never did.When I did the 4.10 gears, I started to experience some vibrations.Asa last resortIremoved the drive shaft and hadthe balance checked. Sure enough drive line guy said I had a bent drive shaft. It took quite a bit of straightening before he could balance it. Cost me $150.00. Now this had to be bent from the factory because I never hit anything. Anyways the trucknow rides assmooth asbefore when I had the 355's in it. I'd say if youchecked everything out and are down to the tires and driveshaft. Start saving for tiresandpull the driveshaft and get it checked.If itchecks outok it will not be that much money.Then you can at least rule out the driveshaft.
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LOL. It's got 53k miles on it. The tires are pretty chopped up from the previous owner driving them for so long out of balance, but Discount doesn't seem to want to warranty them out.

allignment issues
ball joint
could the rotors be messed up thus having an uneven centrifugal force causing the shake
does it ever settle down once a certain speed is met?
uh maybe he really beat the **** out of it and the bead cant keep it set right (prob not)
wheel bearing issue
maybe the sidewall stiffness is not even

discout tire has road hazard warranty, keep picking up nails in the side wall.


my buddys 02 sc shakes just a bit at highway speed

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Old 03-07-2008, 02:02 AM
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i dont know if i could live with their answer of its just shaking i think its all tires, balanced corectly? how many mi on truck? im at 43,000 and its virgin tight lol
LOL. It's got 53k miles on it. The tires are pretty chopped up from the previous owner driving them for so long out of balance, but Discount doesn't seem to want to warranty them out. I really dislike these tires too...too mild of a highway tread. I'd but some Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revos on there from work if I could afford it...

There's nothing mechanically wrong with the truck either. I've had it up in the air and had several people check it in addition to myself.
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Old 03-07-2008, 09:27 AM
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i dont know if i could live with their answer of its just shaking i think its all tires, balanced corectly? how many mi on truck? im at 43,000 and its virgin tight lol
LOL. It's got 53k miles on it. The tires are pretty chopped up from the previous owner driving them for so long out of balance, but Discount doesn't seem to want to warranty them out. I really dislike these tires too...too mild of a highway tread. I'd but some Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revos on there from work if I could afford it...

There's nothing mechanically wrong with the truck either. I've had it up in the air and had several people check it in addition to myself.
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LOL oh gawd, that's hilarious. Yes I do, I'm a Service Advisor for the #1 store in the Arizona district. But even with discounts, I'm still looking in excess of $400 for tires on those damned 20" rims.

I've had the alignment checked/fixed twice. Rotors are perfect, that's another thing I checked when the truck was in the air. I'm driving this thing to Utah to see family on Saturday (ugh, Utah...cold) so maybe I'll take it to a dealership up there and just tell them to shake down the whole front end and see if they can find something I overlooked.
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Old 03-07-2008, 05:45 PM
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One more suggestion, have the tires balanced on the truck. Sounds crazy, but, yes, they do balance tires actually mounted right on the vehicle. This will take the rotating mass of the drivetrain into account while balancing. Downside is, the tires ultimately would have to stay in the same position on the truck---no rotation.

While they are there, they can also check the runout on the hubs too, to see if you might have a slightly bent axle---this one is a stretch, but shouldn't be ruled out.

Oh, and the dealer is full if **** too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They have access to driveline shops just like you do, and yes they COULD help you out here, but they don't want to.

If you, or someone you know has a Mag and a dial indicator, you could get a rough runout indication yourself at home. You'll want to elevate the truck--all four wheels off the ground, clean a spot in the center of the shaft and slowly turn the shaft marking the high spot on the driveshafts--front and back drive lines (if 4x4), your runout should be *******ly nothing
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So this problem has started to irritate me more lately. I bought my truck with Goodyear Eagle LS2s on it, and I'm definitely not crazy about the tires, but I can afford anything new right now. It had a high speed shake, so I had my coworker rotate and balance all four tires. Hit the freeway, and it was still shaking. I found the warranty reciept from Discount Tire (ugh, competitors!) so I went over, they balanced the tires, found that each took about an ounce. Hit the freeway again, STILL shaking. Randy (HemiRiden) suggested that it was the driveshaft that needed to be balanced. Called the dealership, they said they not only do NOT balance driveshafts, but that 02-03 half ton rams "drive like 3500's" and will always have this high speed shake.

Is there any truth to this?
Hey there, glad to see another Az in the forum. What dealership did you take it to?
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:37 PM
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The story of all 02 & 03's driving like that is total bull! I've got a buddy with an '02 1500 RCSB 5.9 4x4, with a FabTech 6" suspension lift and 35" mudder tires no less. Been in it on I95 going 95 MPH and it's perfectly fine.

First of all, if you work at a tire shop, have the tires "road force balanced", much more effective than just a standard balance. Any tire shop worth spit will have a unit such as a Hunter GSP9700 Road Force Measurement Balancer. If it's not in the tires and you've had components such as the ball joints checked, then your problem will be in the driveshaft. If your truck is a 4x2 3rd gen then you have an aluminum driveshaft (unlike4x4's which are steel) and it's very common for them to be out of balance (ie.: bent)...
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Road Force balancing is best. If your tires are chopped then that is most likely your whole problem. Took my car allover town and finally realized my tires were chopped. I replaced them and, viola no more shake and no more pulling to the right. Goodyear and Bridgestone for passenger cars are **** ! I paid 850.00 for 17 in. tires and they lasted 1/3 of the advertised life. I kept them balanced and rotated and had the front end aligned religiously. Bridgestone did the same thing. 20 in. Goodyears came on my RAM and Ive got 8100 mi. on em. They seem to be doing pretty good on the treadwear butI have to balance them every 3-5 thousand @ $70.00 a pop. I need some advice on what type of tires to put on my truck (08 QC Hemi Big Horn 4x4). I like a smooth ride with as little road noise as possible. When the factory tires are done Im trying another brand.
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I need some advice on what type of tires to put on my truck (08 QC Hemi Big Horn 4x4). I like a smooth ride with as little road noise as possible. When the factory tires are done Im trying another brand.
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yeah i would almost put money on the driveshaft being bent....the aluminum driveshafts are on national back order (damn things keeps getting replaced due to being bent or in my case breaking)
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Hey there.. your problem sounds similar to the one I had up until last week. I had a bad shake at around 55 MPH and up and I thought it was a balance/alignment issue and took it in to get it done, turned out to be a broken steel belt in one of the Wrangler HP's. I had to replace both fronts (one broken steel belt, other one had tread separation). Good Luck!

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how fast are you going when this shake happens?
have you tried cleaning the backside of the rims before balance?
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