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Old 07-07-2008, 01:28 PM
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Hi all...

I can't shift out of park unless I disconnect the 2 wire connector on shift cable at the column.

Any help would be much appreciated!
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Old 07-07-2008, 02:33 PM
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Check your brake lights, sounds like the switch at your brake pedal might not be working...
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:27 PM
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Brake Lights are working. Just to clarify that brake lights (in tail lights) only work when ignition is on. 3rd brake light in upper cab works whether ignition on or off.

So since brake lights work does that rule out the brake light switch? The switch has 6 wire connector. Any idea which of these wires to check for shift release?
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:19 PM
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Default RE: Shifter Stuck in Park

Possibly your "Park" lockout solenoid crapped out. Happened to me once.

What it does is that it will not open unless you have the brake engaged. Nice little safety feature that all cars have if made in the last 20 years or so. Where it is at in our trucks, I have no idea. Maybe someone can chime in that has a service manual or you will have to blow $20 and go get one.
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:31 PM
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I had a recall notice in the mail for the 02 models with the shifter on the column doing something like that also coming out of park and rolling away it was a while back but I took it in and they fixed it for free
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The BTSI (Brake Transmission Shift Interlock) mechanism is on the shift cable were to attaches to the column shift lever. It is working. It will not release when the brake pedal is depressed. It only releases if I unplug it. With a small child it is a safety feature I can't do without.

I also have an issue with my brake lights only working when the ignition is turned on. I am sure the 2 issues are related. I have seen some references to the Front Control Module (FCM) but nothing for this specific problem. Can anyone confirm if the circuit for the BTSI (Brake Transmission Shift Interlock) mechanism and the brake lights run through the FCM?
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:48 AM
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Success! After changing the the PCM (fuse/ relay box) to correct the "no park lamp" issue my brake lights stopped working and my shifter would not come out of park.

I went back and checked everything and found the Instrument Cluster-C2 connector (left side) was not seated completely. That's where the brake light switch signals run through.

Thanks to everyone for all the help!
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Old 12-27-2008, 02:06 PM
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Cool Shifter stuck in park - Lubrication issue

I have a 2002 Durango SLT 4WD that was stick in park. Of course the dealership will not give you any info about it so i figured it out myself. With the use of a torx screwdriver (sorry, size not known) I removed the steering column plastic housing. After looking at the action of turning the key and trying to move the shift lever, I noticed a lever was not moving to allow a pin to recess out of the way of the shifter (first photo). I used my finger to move a plate (second photo) towards the steering wheel and it allowed the pin to recess (third picture) and the shifter to move. After seeing this action, you should be able to figure out were it needs some lubrication. Good thing the shifter got stick while the vehicle was in the garage.
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Talking Shifter stuck in park - Lubrication issue

Thank you mwilley!

I was able to access the pin and lever by pulling back the shfter boot. After seeing that pin not always retracting, I just squirted some 3 in one oil and it stopted sticking. Great help!
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Old 01-12-2010, 03:26 PM
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Default 2002 Durango Stuck In Park Fix!

Thanks for tip. The screw driver you'll need is a T-20.. Also be sure to get a long one. I had a multi T set and for one screw it was too short. Had to run and get another one. Also seeing on the boards some didn;t have to removed the steering plastic colum.. Just puled th boot back and spayed with oil.. I feel confident however that by takeing the extra step you know its cleaned and lubed adiquately.. Thanks A mill for your help..

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I have a 2002 Durango SLT 4WD that was stick in park. Of course the dealership will not give you any info about it so i figured it out myself. With the use of a torx screwdriver (sorry, size not known) I removed the steering column plastic housing. After looking at the action of turning the key and trying to move the shift lever, I noticed a lever was not moving to allow a pin to recess out of the way of the shifter (first photo). I used my finger to move a plate (second photo) towards the steering wheel and it allowed the pin to recess (third picture) and the shifter to move. After seeing this action, you should be able to figure out were it needs some lubrication. Good thing the shifter got stick while the vehicle was in the garage.
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What a blessing this forum is.

Pulled the boot back, lubed the tab and it works fine.

Saved a costly towing bill and an unknown mechanic's bill.

Thanx to everyone for the replies.

I also have a fix for the front brake rotors warping if anyone need it.
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Thank you mwilley!

I was able to access the pin and lever by pulling back the shfter boot. After seeing that pin not always retracting, I just squirted some 3 in one oil and it stopted sticking. Great help!
Thank you mwilly & zorkmid2000!

Until this week, I had only experienced this issue 5 or 6 times over the past 1.5 years in my '02 Dakota, but the last several days have been a nightmare with this happening almost every time I started the truck. One thing I did notice was the fact that this problem seemed to only surface during cold weather. My theory on that is the possibility that whatever lube was still present on the mechanism was less fluid due to the lower temps. Prior to a while ago, my only solution to the problem was to frantically pivot the tilt steering wheel while banging it up and down until the interlock released the shifter. After reading your suggestions and viewing the pics, I was able to remove the boot, and shoot some Tri-Flow lubricant on all of the related moving parts. Immediately after that, everything was freed up.

Thanks again!

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I would like to thank everyone also. This happened to me today after my Van was loaded and heading out. I was stuck and I ran a search and found this forum. I'm not a mechanic by any stretch of the imagination, but my van was fixed within five minutes of reading this.

You all saved me a towing bull plus whatever they would have said was wrong, just for a squirt of wd-40. My shifter is as smooth as butter now.

Thanks to everyone that helped me on this thread.



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What a blessing this forum is.

Pulled the boot back, lubed the tab and it works fine.

Saved a costly towing bill and an unknown mechanic's bill.

Thanx to everyone for the replies.

I also have a fix for the front brake rotors warping if anyone need it.
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Old 11-27-2011, 12:45 PM
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Default Probable causes of shift lever stuck in Park

Thanks MWilly and others for your suggestions. With them I was able to recover my Durango this morning from a parking lot where I had left it last night.
There are two probable causes for this problem. The first, addressed by MWilly involves the locking cog at the top of the shift mechanism and takes a couple minutes to check. Remove the rubber boot at the base of the shift lever. The slide-lock cog should disengage when the key is turned on. If it does not, simply spray some thin lubricant onto the mechanism (it is easy to see) and move it with a small screwdriver or pen to free it up.

If that slide is working properly and disengages when the key is on, but you still can't get out of Park, the second locking cog further down the cable is probably not retracting when you step on the brake pedal and attempt to shift. That means the contacts in the brake switch connecter are probably dirty. There are two plastic locks on the connecter. The red one needs to be pushed over so when you squeeze the connecter itself it will unlock and you can disconnect it. Spray electric contact cleaner on the contacts, let them dry, reconnect and then try again. That should solve the problem. I've had both situations.

If the top lock functions and you spray the brake switch connections and still have no result, leave the brake switch connector disconnected, shift from Park to Neutral then start the vehicle (with the emergency brake on), re-connect the connector so you have brake lights then move the vehicle to where you can work on it. It is possible the brake switch connecter through which the shift lock relay runs is worn or defective. Not a big deal to replace it.

In 90% of the cases, these two problems are the culprit. It is possible but unlikely that you have a faulty solenoid which requires a great deal more 'digging'. I've learned since originally putting up this post that the brake light switch connector (the multi wire unit that plugs into the switch) can fail. The wires can break or work loose and if that happens, you will be chasing the other two problems when it is a faulty connector. There are connector repair kits on the internet or you can make up your own using 18 and 20 ga wires and re-constructing the connector using new wire. Takes about an hour at most.

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I figured out this was wrong with my dad's truck, do you know how to fix it besides leaving it unplugged? Is there a replacement part that you know of? Thanks
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The BTSI (Brake Transmission Shift Interlock) mechanism is on the shift cable were to attaches to the column shift lever. It is working. It will not release when the brake pedal is depressed. It only releases if I unplug it. With a small child it is a safety feature I can't do without.

I also have an issue with my brake lights only working when the ignition is turned on. I am sure the 2 issues are related. I have seen some references to the Front Control Module (FCM) but nothing for this specific problem. Can anyone confirm if the circuit for the BTSI (Brake Transmission Shift Interlock) mechanism and the brake lights run through the FCM?
Does anyone know how to replace this. The BTSI
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is a good video showing roughly what you are looking for (even though the video is for a van). If you're a little guy like me you can stand beside the truck and kind of duck under the dash and turn a bit to see the brake switch. Luckily mine was just loose and has worked perfectly since I tightened it up this morning. Thanks to all the help above as I was parked in a 3 hour limit downtown aprking spot so you saved me a $50 tow + shop service.
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Thanks all - I was able to remove the boot, shoot it with WD40 and it works great now. No need to buy a T-20 and remove the plastic column cover either.
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