Ram 1500 solid axle conversion! HELP
#32
meh, nothing funny about it. Its not that hard
https://dodgeforum.com/forum/3rd-gen...e-ram-sas.html
https://dodgeforum.com/forum/3rd-gen...e-ram-sas.html
#33
Ram 1500 solid axle conversion!
I have done a SAS on my Ram. Having a full shop to work from, I did this one @ my home. Again I could have done this @ the shop with the lift, and all the tools I needed. Instead I wanted to see if this could be done without having a full custom shop to work from? Also, the cost involved. and last but, not least, the design and labor involved? Well, this is how and what I came up with... I took a front axle from a 1978 Ford F250 4X4 (a Dana 44 HP w/leaf springs and 4.09 reverse rotation gears) and rebuilt it (new seals, u joints, bearings, gears, etc.), I changed the ends (brake brackets, calipers, spindles and hubs from the 8 on 6.5 to 5 on 5.5 lug pattern), Since this "set-up" was going to be a leaf sprung front I started with a 5"X5"X34.25" square tubing for my front crossmember. I welded my spring hangers @ 31.25" from center to center to my crossmember and then welded my crossmember to my front frame (after getting my "lay-out"), I then cut all my IFS brackets and crossmember out from under my truck. Pulled my measurements back from my front hangers to 53.50" center to center to weld up my shackle hangers. Then came the steering issue? So I, got a 1999 Dodge Ram steering gear box and welded through my frame 3 DOM sleeves (after several "mock-ups" to get it perfect), Once that was complete, I bolted the the new axle under my truck on 4" Ford springs. With the truck sitting on "her" own I had the brake line made and built a crossover steering set-up using .75" rod ends and 1" id DOM tubing. My total cost was way cheaper than what it would have been (but, being fair about this, I came up with a price/cost list). As far as doing this "at home" and the tools needed (welders, metal saws, hand tools, etc.) is another subject! Last would be the level of difficulty, and that is a hard one? meaning, what's easy for me may be hard to others or vise versa. what I'm trying to say here is don't try to do this on your own if you don't have any experience. Now, I know I made this sound easy and summed it up (left out alot of the cussing nights, frustration, etc.) lol! Hopefully this helps some to have an idea about what it would take?
1978 Ford F250 Dana 44 HP leaf sprung axle $150.00? quoted
1978 Ford F150 4X4 2 spindles, 2 hubs and 2 rotors $150.00? quoted
1999 Dodge Ram 1500 Steering gear box $50.00? quoted
2 sets of 3/4" Rod End Set 1" Tube ID, 1.5" X .25" Wall, 1" Tube ID X 108”
DOM Tubing, 2.5” Leaf spring hanger kit and standard Shackle hanger kit $281.40 @ ruffstuffspecialties.com
1978 Ford F150 4X4 front calipers and brake pads $62.00 @ local parts store
Dana 44 reverse rotation 4.09 Yukon Ring and Pinion set $165.00
@ ronsmachiningservice.net
Dana 44 Master Overhaul Kit Item #22114 $245.00 @ broncograveyard.com
Assortment of grade 8 bolts used on the steering and leaf springs $30.00?
@ local parts store
add approximately another $300.00 for misc. stuff (5"X5"X35.25" tubing, brake line, grade 8 bolts, etc.)
Total estimated parts: $1,433.40?
1978 Ford F250 Dana 44 HP leaf sprung axle $150.00? quoted
1978 Ford F150 4X4 2 spindles, 2 hubs and 2 rotors $150.00? quoted
1999 Dodge Ram 1500 Steering gear box $50.00? quoted
2 sets of 3/4" Rod End Set 1" Tube ID, 1.5" X .25" Wall, 1" Tube ID X 108”
DOM Tubing, 2.5” Leaf spring hanger kit and standard Shackle hanger kit $281.40 @ ruffstuffspecialties.com
1978 Ford F150 4X4 front calipers and brake pads $62.00 @ local parts store
Dana 44 reverse rotation 4.09 Yukon Ring and Pinion set $165.00
@ ronsmachiningservice.net
Dana 44 Master Overhaul Kit Item #22114 $245.00 @ broncograveyard.com
Assortment of grade 8 bolts used on the steering and leaf springs $30.00?
@ local parts store
add approximately another $300.00 for misc. stuff (5"X5"X35.25" tubing, brake line, grade 8 bolts, etc.)
Total estimated parts: $1,433.40?
#34
ill be doing a SFA on my 05 1500 ram 2wd soon
ill let yall know how it goes. Im going to be using a D50 out of a 2001 f250 and also using the rear out of the same 250. im going to be going with 6" lift chevy leafs up front. At the same time i will be swaping in a 12v cummins/nv4500/241hd combo as well. there will be a little bit of frame strengthening mostly in the new steering gear mount area as well as boxing in the entire frame. I will be using this truck for playin around off road as well as the occasional truck pull at the local county fairs in the summer.
I enjoy building stuff and have to be tinkering with somthing at all times... if i was a lazy man i would just go out and by a 2500 with a cummins but then again i like the one of a kind stuff... il be fabbin up custom bumpers for it as well. Hounestly though it would not be a hard progect at all. as long as you have three things. a way to cut metal, (i use plasma cutter), a welder capable of doing 1/4" welds, and a grinder.... those 3 things and a little creativity and you can pretty much build whatever you want from scratch. For those out there asking about doing this kind of stuff though i recomend taking a few welding classes at your local comunity college and then just start practicing on scrap metal.
I enjoy building stuff and have to be tinkering with somthing at all times... if i was a lazy man i would just go out and by a 2500 with a cummins but then again i like the one of a kind stuff... il be fabbin up custom bumpers for it as well. Hounestly though it would not be a hard progect at all. as long as you have three things. a way to cut metal, (i use plasma cutter), a welder capable of doing 1/4" welds, and a grinder.... those 3 things and a little creativity and you can pretty much build whatever you want from scratch. For those out there asking about doing this kind of stuff though i recomend taking a few welding classes at your local comunity college and then just start practicing on scrap metal.