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Pinion Bearing failed, dealer rebuilding entire rear end!

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Old 04-01-2009, 03:31 PM
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Unhappy Pinion Bearing failed, dealer rebuilding entire rear end!

Driving to work yesterday morning and heard what sounded like a right rear wheel bearing going and BAM!!! Driveshaft hit the pavement doing 45 mph. Removed the driveshaft and using the front wheels drove into a fire department to get the truck off a highly traveled road.

Just spoke to the dealer and the entire differential needs to be rebuilt. Yoke is being replaced but not the driveshaft? Ring & Pinion are toast. Not sure if they are replacing the entire carrier or rebuilding my original core? Axles are being reused, but new bearings & seals will be installed.

I bought this truck brand new from the dealer's lot in 2003. Never roasted the tires, or went off roading, basically babied the truck since new. Had planned on changing the front & rear end fluids for the first time this spring.

Truck is a 2003 Quad Cab 4x4 Hemi with 34,900 miles so it's covered under the basic 7/70,000 powertrain warranty. Mechanic said he's never seen such carnage. Rear wasn't leaking so looks as if I just had a bad pinion bearing. Good thing I wasn't doing 70 mph on the highway. Only recent activity the truck has seen was towing a '72 Chevelle SS 454 home from MA last month.

Has to be at least a $2,500 job. Asked to have the driveshaft balanced, dealer said if it vibrates after the rebuild they will order a new one?

Very strange to say the least! Anything specific I should ask them to replace or inspect?
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Old 04-01-2009, 03:40 PM
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glad you have the warranty. I dont know if it is a 2500 dollar job, but expensive either way. Maybe you should have changed the diff fluid before this, but seeing as you only have 35000 miles on it, probably didnt hurt anything.

By the way, have pictures of the SS?
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Unable to post pics at work. I'll try tonight from home.
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I'm wondering if you are the many who have the factory LSD, a failed clip could have gotten wedged in there and exploded the whole thing. Sadly, they use the exact same parts to fix it...
If it weren't for them fixing it under warranty, I'd say get a good shop to do it with upgraded gears and a master install kit that uses Timkin Bearings, best bearings available...
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Yes, truck came equipped from the factory with LSD. Hope the tech knows what he's doing. Rather get an entire new rear but it's not my dime.
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Many, many Dodge 1500 owners have had the "C-Clips" fail on the factory LSD, some get lucky and find the broken pieces have made it to the magnet on the bottom of the differential, while others have not been so lucky and have had the parts jam up the works and eventually destroy the rear end. If I were a betting man, I'd put the ranch up for that's what happened on your truck...

Do a search on here for "C-Clip" (it's not really what they are, but it's the common term) you'll be able to read for a week...
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"C-Clip" (it's not really what they are, but it's the common term)

aaahahahahahhahaaaaa. Just because i was reading the post from yesterday. I figured you would have had the correct lingo by now????? hmmm....slacker...lol
I know. Just using the language that most people know.
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aaahahahahahhahaaaaa. Just because i was reading the post from yesterday. I figured you would have had the correct lingo by now????? hmmm....slacker...lol
I know. Just using the language that most people know.
The problem is you do a search for the correct part name on here or even Google it and you only get 5% of the "HITS" you'd get if you searched "C-Clip", hence, they are C-Clips, for all intensive purposes...
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I know, that's why I made that last statement. You are using the..Here, I'll put it like this. Your just using the Mechanically challenged lingo!...lol
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aaahahahahahhahaaaaa. Just because i was reading the post from yesterday. I figured you would have had the correct lingo by now????? hmmm....slacker...lol
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The problem is you do a search for the correct part name on here or even Google it and you only get 5% of the "HITS" you'd get if you searched "C-Clip", hence, they are C-Clips, for all intensive purposes...
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dang, 35k on an 03!!! thats awsome.
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Don't make me have to come over there!!!
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do you tow with the truck alot? if so is it an open or enclosed trailer?

and if enclosed do you have airbags on it?

assuming you have a Camaro...they rule!
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Don't make me have to come over there!!!
I thought you'd laugh at that Hammer, LOL.

His problem does sound like the clip issues doesn't it?

Good job he's still got a waranty. I hope they rebuild it properly.
I think they still use those same crappy clips for the new install though???

Here's a thought 97LT4SS .............ask the dealership if they will install either an Aurburn or a DTT instead of that clunker of a stock LSD piece of S***.
I know that they won't warranty the LSD if they do that and you'd have to stump up to pay for the aftermarket LSD but, you won't get any further trouble with the diff after that install either.
Plus, you'd never worry about the clips again.
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I've only towed 3 cars since buying the truck May 2003. Calling dealership today to verify wether they are rebuilding my LSD or replacing the entire unit.
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I think they still use those same crappy clips for the new install though???
Why in God's name would they use the same $hity parts??????? How many of these have been fixed under warranty? You'd think by now Dodge would have at least built heavier duty clips or something. WTF?

Mine failed last Friday. Still waiting to hear from the dealer what they are going to do about it.

If they put the same parts back in, I'm trading the truck in. That's absolutely insane!! They know there's a major problem and haven't even made a mid model year update or something.
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Why in God's name would they use the same $hity parts??????? How many of these have been fixed under warranty? You'd think by now Dodge would have at least built heavier duty clips or something. WTF?

Mine failed last Friday. Still waiting to hear from the dealer what they are going to do about it.

If they put the same parts back in, I'm trading the truck in. That's absolutely insane!! They know there's a major problem and haven't even made a mid model year update or something.
Welcome to the way business is conducted in America anymore. Chrysler has known about the issue since at least mid/late '03 and has done nothing about a recall or much else about it yet. Same with the dashes collapsing, warped rotors and a host of other issues that should warrant a total recall.

Hell, I play golf with the sales and service managers of my local dealership and we've openly talked about the LSD issues, then I've been up there and witnessed this same service manager tell a guy whose rear end exploded because of it, that it's the first he's seen or heard or it happening!!! When I question him about it, he says, "Chrysler says we have to say that, I could lose my job if I don't."

But don't be in such a big hurry to trade that truck in. On what?
Ford has a major problem with head gaskets and blown engines due to cutting the number of bolts holding the head down by half to save cost, not to mention other problems. GM has a host of recurring issues. Toyota has rear end problems and has had a HUGE number of cams literally fall apart inside the truck, taking the entire engine out, due to going with the "low bid" on cams. So pick your poison...
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I could let slide the lack of recall. Detroit rarely does this anymore unless a judge puts a gun to their face.

What bothers me is the fact that Dodge hasn't even made an attempt to correct a very big problem. At least a mid-model year update.

Also, where did you hear that Toyota has rear diff problems? I heard about the cam issues in the 07(?) Tundra, but not much else.
At least Toyota has the ***** to step up and recall those cams. They want to have happy repeat customers.

Oh well. By summertime Chrysler will be nothing but a fading memory.
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I could let slide the lack of recall. Detroit rarely does this anymore unless a judge puts a gun to their face.

What bothers me is the fact that Dodge hasn't even made an attempt to correct a very big problem. At least a mid-model year update.

Also, where did you hear that Toyota has rear diff problems? I heard about the cam issues in the 07(?) Tundra, but not much else.
At least Toyota has the ***** to step up and recall those cams. They want to have happy repeat customers.

Oh well. By summertime Chrysler will be nothing but a fading memory.
I've got two guys in a hunting club with me, one had the cam issue, and lost the use of his truck for a couple of months waiting on an engine rebuild and back-ordered cam. He's since sold the truck because he didn't trust a rebuild and only the 3/36 warranty on the truck.
The other had the diff go at 8000 miles and was told by his local dealer that Toyota had metallurgy problems in the diffs and had subsequently changed suppliers over it.
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Exactly!!!!!!!!!!

You don't contiue to build a product with shoddy parts for the next 8 years. If I was to buy a new Tundra tomorrow it would have a updated cam and rear diff in it.

I'm willing to bet, the 09 Ram has the exact same parts in the rear that the 02 - 08's have. And will have diff failures also.

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