ok, fuses checked, they were fine. this time with some more diagnostic thinking, i discovered that neither are supposed to work unless the key is in aux or on for child safety. So I tried the in dash lighter and with key on I discovered that i was able to wiggle the plug around to get the light on it to come on.
that being said i believe i need to replace that, so how do i do that?
Center console aux outlet: does not work at all with key on or off, doing the wiggle with the plug and for the heck of it i tried the lighter in it and nothing. I looked under the seat and found a bunch of wires and 1 of which does go under the center, but they all appeared to be connected correctly. PLus the power seats work fine. I would think they were the same fuse. So now i think I might need to either replace that outlet or it might be a connection issue with the outlet itself. either way, I dont know how to remove it so I need help there too please.