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Old 01-19-2007, 03:10 PM
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Default Tail lights, license plate lights stopped working...

Last week I noticed that my tail lights and license plate lights don't work when the headlight switch is on. Rear turn signals work, flashers work, back-up lights work so the lamps are good. Fuses are good, relay is good. Here's the thing: I had installed a Hoppy trailer-lighting harness about 6 mos. ago. Even after removing it, my rear running lights and license plate lights still don't work. What should I try next?
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Old 01-19-2007, 03:13 PM
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My bad, '02 Ram 1500, 4.7L, V8.
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Old 01-19-2007, 03:37 PM
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I helped my buddy put on a trailer wiring kit and he had probelems with his truck later too. Except when he stepped on the brakes, the brake lights wouldn't work. The running lights and blinkers would work fine. I checked all the bulbs, all the fuses, all the wiring, and even uninstalled the harness and nothing fixed the brake light problem. His was a '00 5.9, though.
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Old 01-20-2007, 08:56 PM
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Default RE: Tail lights, license plate lights stopped working...

I had the same problem last year, I had to replace the whole fuse box. It cost about $500. I tried everything else, i even tried to get into the fuse box but couldn't. I didn't have any mods done to the truck either. Hope that helps
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:34 PM
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Having same problem here - does anyone have a suggestion within reasonable accomplishability?
I have checked the bulbs, fuses, relays, and wire harness, but to no avail. need help as I'm trying to move out of state and don't want to have to travel solely during the day. thanks
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:21 AM
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OK Thank you for the informations...

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Old 07-06-2008, 12:08 PM
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Hi all!

I am having the same issue with my park lamps Front and Rear. Checked everything (relays, fuses, etc.) park lamps only work if I jump the relay.

Fraenkyboy indicated that the FCM was the problem but I did not see a reply or update since the post. Can anyone advise? I am out of ideas here so do I change the FCM?

TO DATE I HAVE:
Changed headlight switch
Checked all relays
Checked all fuses
Checked all bulbs
Checked all connectors
Ckecked all chassis grounds
Verified 12v to relay (30, 86)
Verifiy relay working by applying ground to (85) and lights work


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Old 07-06-2008, 12:30 PM
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Had the same problem here. Had to replace the under hood fuse box.

With this many problems all of a sudden (dealers actually have the boxes on back-order) you'd think a recall would be issued.



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Definately DEFINATELY...............it's the fuse box.
Do a search for the many items and replys I have made to describe and fix the "running lamp problems".
Replace the whole Power Distribution Module...............fuse box to you and I and your problem WILL be solved!
There are corrosion problems seated deep within the fuse box, where the printed circuit board paths connect the FCM to the fuse box internally. These corroded paths, cause high resistance to ground, which the FCM uses to turn on the Park Lamp Relay. The FCMcannot switch on the Park Lamp Relay because of this high resistance.
There is a description of how to jumper the Park Lamp relay, to temporarily force the rear lights to work as AlexisRamdid, when he connected pin 85 to ground of the park lamp relay.
This emulates what the pathways embeded deep in the fuse box do.
My posts have a long and thourough "How to" on that, along with decriptions of the fault etc.
I replaced my fuse box 18mnths ago, and no more problems. Instant fix.
It really is a VERY frustrating fault that is easy to cure but costs $ in a new fuse box/PDM.

Hope this helps?
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Old 07-07-2008, 10:26 AM
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I appreciate all the feedback! I will pick up the fuse box today and let you know...keeping my fingers crossed!


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Old 07-07-2008, 10:58 AM
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Good good.
It's about a 20 min job to change out the box.
You will know instantly if it's fixed the problem.
Just remember to pull the positive battery cable off, before starting to work and check that all the new fuses and relays are the same as your old box.
The new one should come fully kitted out with all the fuses and relays needed.
Mine did, but I double checked to make sure they were of the same values etc.
A nice thing is that you now have a complete set of spare fuses and relays.
Hope everything goes well and post up what happens please.
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How much did the unit cost?
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Old 07-07-2008, 11:11 AM
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I think it was somewhere in the region of about $250.
But that's from memory and I was in vacation in Florida from the UK about 14 months ago.
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UPDATE!

As was mentioned somewhere in DodgeForum the PDC (fuse box) is on national back order! Price $254.00 plus tax of course. It should be here in about a week.

The day is getting better...Now I can't shift out of park! Any suggestions?
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Old 07-07-2008, 12:21 PM
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Okay...I removed column cover and can see that ignition shift lock is retracting when key switched on. I unplugged 2 wire connector at shift cable at it shifts fine. Is this connected to the brake switch? If so how can I check this? The brake lights are working so I guess the brake light switch is okay right?

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Old 07-07-2008, 12:29 PM
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OK, Check out your fuse box again.
There is a fuse in mine chmi,#24 on the fuse block that when open circuit, stops you shifting out of Park.
Don't know what it might be on yours???
Just check all your fuses.
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Checked Fuse #24 CHML and it is good with 12v across. I lied though...Only 3rd brake light in rear upper cab is working. The tail light brake lamps are not lighting up.

Not sure how the brake lights are routed to 3rd brake light vs. the tail lights. I do not see a separate brake light fuse.

Not sure where to go with this.
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Okay...Still checking and see that all three brake lights work when ignition is on. Doesn't seem right to me. Shouldn't the brake lights work whether ignition is on or not? Never noticed this before.

Shifter still stuck in park unless I remove the 2 wire connector on the shift cable at the column....


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Update: Success! I called every local dealer found a PDC (fuse/ relay box). I just installed it and it and the tail lights are working again.

Thanks for all your help!!!

Unfortunately the PDC did not clear up the shifter being stuck in park I have listed that issue in another thread but if anyone has any ideas please let me know.
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Yeeha for the PDC fix.
Sorry can't help anymore with the Park issue.
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