Go Back   DodgeForum.com > Dodge Trucks > Dodge Ram > 4th Gen Ram Tech
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


4th Gen Ram Tech 2009+ and up Rams: This section is for TECHNICAL discussions only, that involve the 2009 and up Rams. For any non-tech discussions, please direct your attention to the "General discussion/NON-tech" sub sections.

2" Mopar Leveling Kit Problems

Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 01-05-2011, 03:32 PM
zman9788's Avatar
zman9788 zman9788 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 39
Default 2" Mopar Leveling Kit Problems

So after reading the posts on here I determined that I should be safe going with the Mopar 2" leveling kit. Kit was $212 with tax and dealer charged me $196 for install and alignment. It looks great, and drove fine in 2WD. However, before buying $1400 in tires, I checked to make sure it worked in 4WD. Unfortunately, I have the "Death Wobble"/4WD Shudder. Dealer said they think it is the kit and the only fix is to remove it, for another $200. I called Mopar and they said they have had no problems with this kit and have sold 100's of them. Took it to another dealer and they could only figure from a test drive that it was the sharper angles at the CV joints. They would not investigate further without charging $86/hr for labor. As it stands, I have filed a complaint with Dodge and I am waiting to hear back. I need feedback of anyone else who has this Mopar kit installed and if they have had any problems with it, specifically while in 4WD. I know some of the other kits have problems, but I thought this one was working for people. Thanks.
This ad is not displayed to registered and logged-in members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Dodge Forums!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-05-2011, 03:40 PM
sking sking is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 374
Default

I thought the Mopar leveling kit was removed from catalog do to problems?
__________________
2010 2500 4x4, Hers 09 Crew Cab
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-05-2011, 03:55 PM
sensor5 sensor5 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 46
Default

After some rersearch, I decided not to level my 2011 4x4 QC. It seems ones who don't have problems right away, have problems 10,000 to 20,000 miles down the road.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-05-2011, 03:59 PM
2002kasner 2002kasner is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 43
Default

What are your specs on your truck, body type motor? Only problem your going to have is since the mopar leveling kit is considered a performance part any damages or any work related to the kit will not be covered under warrenty and could eve void parts of your 36k mile warranty... I know stupid right but the info is all over the warranty page on the mopar site. Either have a buddy take it off for you or start reading how to take it off as almost every leveling kit will cause the shakes. Its not the kits its the front end of our trucks and how they were made. Leveling a ram is just about as good as jumping in front of traffic. Bound to break! Some have luck with them but that's only about 5 percent of the time it seems
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-05-2011, 04:01 PM
jball jball is offline
Professional
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Vehicle: 2009 dodge ram 1500 4x4
Location: Marshall, MI
Posts: 175
Default

I've installed a 2" kits on 2 different trucks, both had issues. It doesnt matter if it's a mopar or diamond encrusted ebay spacer kit... it's still 2" taller and the CV's are at the same angle with either kit. (There are other differences with the kits at other points in the wheel travel, but that's been discussed before).

I think it's because the motor mounts are too soft and the motor / front diff torque rotates it too much, creating a lot steeper angle on one side than the other. Only practical way to fix it would be to remove it (unless you can get some custom motor mounts made). You can take it back off yourself, it's not that difficult... you will still need to get another alignment.
__________________
BDS 4.5" lift, 35" ATZ's, 20's, Custom front skid plate, Fox Coilovers (front only), Line-x bed liner, and more to come.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-05-2011, 04:24 PM
pdavis53's Avatar
pdavis53 pdavis53 is offline
All Star
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Vehicle: 2010 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT 4x4 Hemi Big Horn edition with the 3.92's
Location: Bristol, NH
Posts: 797
Default

I still cannot beleive you are having all of these issue's. I know a guy on here who has had one on for 45k and he says still no issues. I know I have 13k on mine and now issues. I even had them inspect everything last time it was in and no abnormal wear. Sounds like it is 4" lift kit time!
__________________

2010 Dodge Ram Crew Cab 4x4 SLT Big Horn Edition, 3.92 LSD, Mopar leveling kit w/BFG 34's Mopar 5" side steps, Dual Exhaust with Mufflex DOD24M mod.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-05-2011, 07:30 PM
zman9788's Avatar
zman9788 zman9788 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 39
Default

I realize it voids warranties, but if Mopar knew it would cause problems, why did they allow it to go through as an order. No where in the directions does it say it will cause 4WD issues. Only warning is that it makes your vehicle higher and more prone to roll over. It is a faulty part from delivery and I feel Dodge should take responsibility. I will keep you all updated. Guy at the other dealer stated that the 4" Kit comes with brackets to lower/raise front differential to maintain stock angles with the CV joints; you would think someone would make a bracket kit for the 2" level kit? Maybe that would solve the issues?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-05-2011, 07:49 PM
2002kasner 2002kasner is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 43
Default

The 4" lift when I called my two local dealerships was upwards in the 2875 buck range. Mopar really had us all by the ***** with this damn topic. Level the front end and gamble, or pay the almost 3k just in a lift not including the 800+ labor bill dodge quoted me to install.... ill pass, but let us know for sure what they say. The totally shouldnt have sold it to you. Everyone there at the stealership knew there were issues with the level. Figure they can make more money off you being pissed than happy it worked out
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-07-2011, 03:06 PM
zman9788's Avatar
zman9788 zman9788 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 39
Default

Chrysler Customer Care Case Manager said there is nothing they can do for me. Waiting to hear back from case manager supervisor. Dealer will do nothing. The guy at Mopar said that they will not stand up to Chrysler in this situation, as he said it would be equivalent to "taking a bullet" for me and he would probably get fired for challenging Chrysler. Therefore he quoted the mopar warranty, stating there is no warranty on this part. I guess only two guys work at the Mopar Tech Support Center. He said he would at least speak with one of the engineers and let me know what can be done. Doubt I will get any positive feedback. Spoke with another dealer and he thinks there is a little wiggle room with the front differential bolts and it could possibly be adjusted slightly if drive shaft angle the problem. That may be my last resort, but he will be charging me for that work; so be it. I just want it to work without problems.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-17-2011, 03:04 PM
zman9788's Avatar
zman9788 zman9788 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 39
Default Mopar Leveling Kit Issue Update

So I was able to get another dealer to take a second look at the truck. The guys at Mopar actually set me up with a guy they know well at one of the dealers. They noted the problem and I left it for the day. They did some research and found a tech tip that states, "wobble/shudder in 4WD only is a known condition and no repairs are to be made". I spoke to case manager supervisor at Chrysler Customer Care and told her my concerns of it causing something to break later down the line. She said we will cross that bridge if something does break. So basically I am just going to live with it. Buying tires tomorrow. I think I'll send Chrysler a letter expressing my disappointment and list all of the problems I've had in only 15k miles (Howling door seals, 4WD drive shudder, Chrome badges wearing/peeling in 5000 miles....etc.) I'll post pics of the finished job this week hopefully.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-17-2011, 11:03 PM
JRI JRI is offline
Professional
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Vehicle: 2010 Ram Hemi Laramie CrewCab
Location: FL
Posts: 139
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zman9788 View Post
...I spoke to case manager supervisor at Chrysler Customer Care and told her my concerns of it causing something to break later down the line. She said we will cross that bridge if something does break....
What kind of an answer is that???? I would want to know a lot more about that bridge before I tried to cross it.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-18-2011, 12:42 AM
volunteer volunteer is offline
Amateur
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 48
Default

Man, I think I'd just remove the damn thing. Is it worth having a leveled truck and putting up with shudder/wobble in 4wd? Not to mention the potential future issues down the road? My two cents: remove it and cut your losses now.
__________________


09 CC 4WD
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-18-2011, 10:58 AM
wmichell227 wmichell227 is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Vehicle: 09 Ram 1500 Sport Crew Cab
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 305
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JRI View Post
What kind of an answer is that???? I would want to know a lot more about that bridge before I tried to cross it.
My thoughts exactly!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-18-2011, 11:33 AM
zman9788's Avatar
zman9788 zman9788 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 39
Default

I agree with everyone to cut my losses while I am somewhat ahead, but I found a way to resolve all the other issues with the truck, so I am going to take a chance with this one. The dealer that took a second look at it seemed really cool about Mopar parts and issues, so I think they will take care of me if something does happen. Thank you all for the input.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-19-2011, 03:43 AM
trashman139 trashman139 is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Vehicle: 2009 ram 1500 crew cab 4x4
Location: beavercreek, OH
Posts: 257
Default

i still want to know if it has anything to do with what model truck you drive. It seems to me that the Larimie, SLT big horn, SLT would have more of a comfort ride compared to lets say the Sport or TRX models. maybe they have different shims in the CV joints causing the problems if that were the case im in the clear cause i have the basic ST model.
__________________
Billet Grill, K&N drop in, In-channel visors, AT3030 exhaust, 20% tint front windows, Debadged, Line-X'ed bumpers... more to come
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-19-2011, 07:04 AM
pdavis53's Avatar
pdavis53 pdavis53 is offline
All Star
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Vehicle: 2010 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT 4x4 Hemi Big Horn edition with the 3.92's
Location: Bristol, NH
Posts: 797
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by trashman139 View Post
i still want to know if it has anything to do with what model truck you drive. It seems to me that the Larimie, SLT big horn, SLT would have more of a comfort ride compared to lets say the Sport or TRX models. maybe they have different shims in the CV joints causing the problems if that were the case im in the clear cause i have the basic ST model.
I have the SLT Bighorn with the 2.5" Mopar leveling kit. The same exact one he is talking about and I have had no issues and I am pushing 13K on the leveling kit.
__________________

2010 Dodge Ram Crew Cab 4x4 SLT Big Horn Edition, 3.92 LSD, Mopar leveling kit w/BFG 34's Mopar 5" side steps, Dual Exhaust with Mufflex DOD24M mod.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-20-2011, 01:38 AM
Freyman Freyman is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Vehicle: 2010 Ram 1500 Crew Cab 4x4 SLT Big Horn
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1
Default

2009 up Ram 1500 2" lift kit from Mopar - part number P5155797

This kit is the new one for 4wd Ram 1500's and includes Bilstein front struts, rear shocks, new rear springs and misc. bump stops etc. I believe it is the one the article refers to, it was jointly developed with Bilstein. Here's a link to one outfit selling it:

http://www.fredbeansparts.com/index....lift-kits.html

Mopar (Dodge) lists it as a lift kit instead of a leveling kit and it is in the Mopar 2011 Performance Parts Catalog. If anybody has installed this kit I would be interested to hear how they like it.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-20-2011, 03:10 AM
trashman139 trashman139 is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Vehicle: 2009 ram 1500 crew cab 4x4
Location: beavercreek, OH
Posts: 257
Default

$1000 bucks for a two inch lift why not save the time and save some extra cash for the 4'' lift i dont get it. this lift though does look like a true lift so it might work and i can tell you the shocks are real nice makes for a nice ride.
__________________
Billet Grill, K&N drop in, In-channel visors, AT3030 exhaust, 20% tint front windows, Debadged, Line-X'ed bumpers... more to come
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01-20-2011, 07:26 AM
pdavis53's Avatar
pdavis53 pdavis53 is offline
All Star
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Vehicle: 2010 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT 4x4 Hemi Big Horn edition with the 3.92's
Location: Bristol, NH
Posts: 797
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by trashman139 View Post
$1000 bucks for a two inch lift why not save the time and save some extra cash for the 4'' lift i dont get it. this lift though does look like a true lift so it might work and i can tell you the shocks are real nice makes for a nice ride.
Yeah, especially if they are not going to warranty it anyway.
__________________

2010 Dodge Ram Crew Cab 4x4 SLT Big Horn Edition, 3.92 LSD, Mopar leveling kit w/BFG 34's Mopar 5" side steps, Dual Exhaust with Mufflex DOD24M mod.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 01-20-2011, 06:32 PM
trashman139 trashman139 is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Vehicle: 2009 ram 1500 crew cab 4x4
Location: beavercreek, OH
Posts: 257
Default

pdavis who did the level kit install the dealer or private? and had they ever done it before maybe they did something different
__________________
Billet Grill, K&N drop in, In-channel visors, AT3030 exhaust, 20% tint front windows, Debadged, Line-X'ed bumpers... more to come
Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2011, 06:32 PM
 
 
 
Reply




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump

Join DodgeForum
Advertising

Featured Sponsors
Vendor Directory
Our Sponsors
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:35 AM.

Internet Brands, Inc.


Contact Details & Emails