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Old 02-23-2012, 12:54 PM
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Default Resetting "oil change due" warning on EVIC

First, I searched and all I find is turn key to on, press gas pedal to floor three times within 10 seconds, then turn key off. Start engine - message should be gone. It isn't. Tried it a couple times to make sure.

2011 2500 MegaCab with diesel. Have changed oil at every 5K miles, and it's going in today for another oil change - just short of 15K miles. So how do I really reset that message? Thanks in advance.
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What does it say in your owners manual? The procedure you listed is correct for my 09 Hemi. Quick call to your local dealers service dept would also give you the answer.
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Old 02-23-2012, 01:19 PM
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i have a 2011 5.7. pressing the pedal to the floor 3 times for a couple seconds while the key is in the on position but engine not running works for me.
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First, I searched and all I find is turn key to on, press gas pedal to floor three times within 10 seconds, then turn key off. Start engine - message should be gone. It isn't. Tried it a couple times to make sure.

2011 2500 MegaCab with diesel. Have changed oil at every 5K miles, and it's going in today for another oil change - just short of 15K miles. So how do I really reset that message? Thanks in advance.

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The way you are describing it is the way it should work. If it's not working the dealer needs to take a look. I am posting the info from the owners manual below.

Oil Change Due

Your vehicle is equipped with an engine oil change indicator system. The Oil Change Due message will flash in the EVIC display for approximately 10 seconds after a single chime has sounded to indicate the next scheduled oil change interval. The engine oil change indicator system is duty-cycle based, which means the engine oil change interval may fluctuate dependent upon your personal driving style.
Unless reset, this message will continue to display each time you turn the ignition switch to the ON position. To turn off the message temporarily, press and release the RETURN button. To reset the oil change indicator system (after performing the scheduled maintenance), perform the following steps.
  1. Turn the ignition switch to the ON position. (Do not start the engine)
  2. Fully depress the accelerator pedal slowly three times within 10 seconds.
  3. Turn the ignition switch to the OFF position.
Note: If the indicator message illuminates when you start the engine, the oil change indicator system did not reset. If necessary, repeat these steps.
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:21 AM
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I had the same problem. What they DON'T tell you is that you have to wait until the EVIC has "rebooted", and the display stops going through the startup routines. I was "resetting" too quickly after turning the key on. You still have to wait for the EVIC and everything to "start up" before you do the pedal presses. ( I had to go to the dealer and watch someone do that to my truck before I realized I was too quick on the pedal presses...)
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Old 02-24-2012, 12:39 PM
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exactly as stated, on my 09, you need to turn key forward, wait until EVIC resets and the oil change message comes up, then display resets to "Messages 1" or whatever. Then you follow owners manual, it shuts off right after the 3rd gas pedal depress and even before you turn the key off.
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:31 AM
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half *** instructions from Dodge ,what a surprise...
i bought one of those unimited oil change service plans from Dodge dealer and apperently those techs dont know about it either since they never reset it...
nice to know know..

LOL, i used to think i was doing it too slow.i got interestingly fast at it.
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Bulldawg,

The way you are describing it is the way it should work. If it's not working the dealer needs to take a look. I am posting the info from the owners manual below.

Oil Change Due

Your vehicle is equipped with an engine oil change indicator system. The Oil Change Due message will flash in the EVIC display for approximately 10 seconds after a single chime has sounded to indicate the next scheduled oil change interval. The engine oil change indicator system is duty-cycle based, which means the engine oil change interval may fluctuate dependent upon your personal driving style.
Unless reset, this message will continue to display each time you turn the ignition switch to the ON position. To turn off the message temporarily, press and release the RETURN button. To reset the oil change indicator system (after performing the scheduled maintenance), perform the following steps.
  1. Turn the ignition switch to the ON position. (Do not start the engine)
  2. Fully depress the accelerator pedal slowly three times within 10 seconds.
  3. Turn the ignition switch to the OFF position.
Note: If the indicator message illuminates when you start the engine, the oil change indicator system did not reset. If necessary, repeat these steps.
Chris, the problem is after step one. Step two should read, "Wait for the Oil Change Due message to appear in the EVIC."

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Chris, the problem is after step one. Step two should read, "Wait for the Oil Change Due message to appear in the EVIC."

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I understand. I will pass that on.
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It is incredibly irritating that 1) Chrysler went away from the 'choose your own oil change interval via the truck's computer interface' (my prior Jeeps had that feature); and 2) to reset the message you have to jump through non-intuitive hoops like these instructions. WTF??

All the settings and the ability to reset should be back in the EVIC computer with a normal interface (just like changing light turn-off duration). The driver should get the option to choose between the engine oil life sensor and any fixed mileage duration they want to use. Some people like to change oil every 3000 miles (not me). Some use synthetic oil and go 6000 or 8000 miles between changes. Forcing one method on people is ridiculous.

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It is incredibly irritating that 1) Chrysler went away from the 'choose your own oil change interval via the truck's computer interface' (my prior Jeeps had that feature); and 2) to reset the message you have to jump through non-intuitive hoops like these instructions. WTF??

All the settings and the ability to reset should be back in the EVIC computer with a normal interface (just like changing light turn-off duration). The driver should get the option to choose between the engine oil life sensor and any fixed mileage duration they want to use. Some people like to change oil every 3000 miles (not me). Some use synthetic oil and go 6000 or 8000 miles between changes. Forcing one method on people is ridiculous.

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Rob,

You have some good idea's. The problem is that not everyone has an EVIC.

While I understand the system may not work exactly as everyone would like it to work, I would never have thought this thread would turn into how Chrysler oil change system and instructions need to be re-written. Lets face it, the owners manual is already over 700 pages long, yet we want to add more, maybe have multiple sets of instructions for vehicles with an EVIC and another for those without one?

The original poster was resetting it a little too quick. That is unfortunate, but the problem was rectified in a couple posts. Now we are talking about turning the key on and pressing the gas pedal 3 times is jumping through too many hoops? I don't agree.
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Rob,

You have some good idea's. The problem is that not everyone has an EVIC.

While I understand the system may not work exactly as everyone would like it to work, I would never have thought this thread would turn into how Chrysler oil change system and instructions need to be re-written. Lets face it, the owners manual is already over 700 pages long, yet we want to add more, maybe have multiple sets of instructions for vehicles with an EVIC and another for those without one?

The original poster was resetting it a little too quick. That is unfortunate, but the problem was rectified in a couple posts. Now we are talking about turning the key on and pressing the gas pedal 3 times is jumping through too many hoops? I don't agree.
I didn't suggest re-writing the manual. I suggested changing to an intuitive process for resetting the warning message. Having it done via the normal EVIC interface in a guided, menu-based manner, just like other vehicle options, would essentially eliminate the need for detailed instructions in the manual. As for everyone not having an EVIC, perhaps that should be standard so things are consistent across all models?

Chrysler had it that way for many years. Why they chose to move to a non-intuitive ("turn key, press gas pedal 3 times" might be 'easy' but is certainly NOT intuitive) process is beyond me. Take a cue from manufacturers that are successful with consumer electronics interfaces (Apple, Microsoft) and find a way to make things simple and intuitive for your customers. Once there, don't go backwards.

Speaking of non-intuitive, I could launch into a lengthy description of how crappy of an interface the 430/RBZ MyGig radio is, but that's not the topic of this thread.

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My oil changer indicator comes on every 2500 miles, regardless of driving style. Has done it since new and have 55k on it now. The indicator takes what, 6 seconds to reset. I change it at 5k intervals anyway, some of us don't sweat the small stuff in life...
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I agree with BigBlueEdge. Clearing the oil change reminder should have been programmed into the EVIC. Simple to have done. Next we will be pushing the mirror left button 5 times, turning the key three times, while we push the window lock button to get the truck to start.
EVIC should have all the controls needed. Engineers just don't get it.
Why can't things just be done in a common sense method instead of making the whole thing a mystifying ordeal? I figure someday we will be able to do all this through a smartphone anyway.
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I agree with BigBlueEdge. Clearing the oil change reminder should have been programmed into the EVIC. Simple to have done. Next we will be pushing the mirror left button 5 times, turning the key three times, while we push the window lock button to get the truck to start.
EVIC should have all the controls needed. Engineers just don't get it.
Why can't things just be done in a common sense method instead of making the whole thing a mystifying ordeal? I figure someday we will be able to do all this through a smartphone anyway.

I don't think you guys get it. As the Dodge dude said, not everyone has an EVIC. So the way it works now is everyone, regardless of options does it the same way. It's called standardization. Do you really think people would not be on here asking how to reset it if it was done on the EVIC?

As far as making the EVIC standard, that is clueless. So they are going to change wiring harnesses, give everyone an upgraded dash, and reconfigure half the electronics because it is too tough to hit the gas pedal 3 times? Like they are going to spend millions of dollars doing that. According to some posters on here they should also include putting the key in the ignition to the instructions because it doesn't say that either. As far as waiting for the display to come on until you hit the gas pedal, does that really need to be said? It's a computer people. Do you turn on your computer at home and start typing before the screen comes up? One guy has a little trouble resetting the oil change indicater and you guys want the whole car redesigned. Sheesh....
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Rob,

You have some good idea's. The problem is that not everyone has an EVIC.

While I understand the system may not work exactly as everyone would like it to work, I would never have thought this thread would turn into how Chrysler oil change system and instructions need to be re-written. Lets face it, the owners manual is already over 700 pages long, yet we want to add more, maybe have multiple sets of instructions for vehicles with an EVIC and another for those without one?

The original poster was resetting it a little too quick. That is unfortunate, but the problem was rectified in a couple posts. Now we are talking about turning the key on and pressing the gas pedal 3 times is jumping through too many hoops? I don't agree.
I'm not going to get in to a discussion about the intuitiveness of the of the EVIC since I suspect there were a number of factors that led to the way it was designed.

This might be rash, but I assume that engineering determined a need to furnish instructions to the end user on how to reset the Oil Change message, especially knowing that many owners will perform their own maintenance. If so, there's a burden upon engineering to ensure the instructions are clear and precise. In this case the original poster did use the owners/user information and was unable to get the function to work correctly. I'm thinking that had the instructions been clearer we wouldn't be having this discussion at all.

Engineering populations developing their own documentation typically have a great tendency to fail in this regard, especially when validating instructions. That's because they are so close to the design they often take simple things for granted and fail to communicate them. Instructions should always be validated by a neutral, non-technical party.

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I don't think you guys get it. As the Dodge dude said, not everyone has an EVIC. So the way it works now is everyone, regardless of options does it the same way. It's called standardization. Do you really think people would not be on here asking how to reset it if it was done on the EVIC?

As far as making the EVIC standard, that is clueless. So they are going to change wiring harnesses, give everyone an upgraded dash, and reconfigure half the electronics because it is too tough to hit the gas pedal 3 times? Like they are going to spend millions of dollars doing that. According to some posters on here they should also include putting the key in the ignition to the instructions because it doesn't say that either. As far as waiting for the display to come on until you hit the gas pedal, does that really need to be said? It's a computer people. Do you turn on your computer at home and start typing before the screen comes up? One guy has a little trouble resetting the oil change indicater and you guys want the whole car redesigned. Sheesh....
Overreact much? "want the whole car redesigned"??

You may call it standardization, I call it lowest common denominator. And you know what, if that's the limiting factor (no EVIC in some vehicles) then that's fine to have to find a lowest common denominator. But the process is still not intuitive and that is the real problem here. I guarantee that zero people who have never owned a recent Chrysler would buy a Ram and when the oil change light comes on think "oh, all I have to do to reset this is shut the truck off, turn the key on, wait for the dash to 'boot', then press the gas pedal three times quickly". Not one. Because it doesn't make any sense. There has to be something more intuitive that can be done. I'm no auto designer so I don't have an answer beyond "put it in the EVIC" because that seemed logical to me in my situation (it was good enough for Jeep back in 2000 and 2005 when I owned them - if every 2000 Jeep GC had an EVIC perhaps every 2010 Ram can too?), I'm a user who knows that what they have is poorly done.

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Overreact much? "want the whole car redesigned"??

You may call it standardization, I call it lowest common denominator. And you know what, if that's the limiting factor (no EVIC in some vehicles) then that's fine to have to find a lowest common denominator. But the process is still not intuitive and that is the real problem here. I guarantee that zero people who have never owned a recent Chrysler would buy a Ram and when the oil change light comes on think "oh, all I have to do to reset this is shut the truck off, turn the key on, wait for the dash to 'boot', then press the gas pedal three times quickly". Not one. Because it doesn't make any sense. There has to be something more intuitive that can be done. I'm no auto designer so I don't have an answer beyond "put it in the EVIC" because that seemed logical to me in my situation (it was good enough for Jeep back in 2000 and 2005 when I owned them - if every 2000 Jeep GC had an EVIC perhaps every 2010 Ram can too?), I'm a user who knows that what they have is poorly done.

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How hard is it to read the owners manual? Not intuitive enough to do that? I can find hundreds of posts on here from people who have an EVIC which tells them how to set personal setting and is very intuative. Guess what? They still post they cannot figure it out or where to go to set their preferences. Tell me what manufacturers oil light reset process is easier. Because my Ford and Honda cannot even be done with one hand.

If you think putting new dashes and wiring harnesses to make all the vehicles the same is not a big redesign then you have no idea how a car is built, because changing a wiring harness touches every part of the vehicle from front to back.

Stop making a federal case out of an oil change. No matter how you break it down, no one way will be able to be figured out by everyone. It's that simple. Peace brother, I am done here.
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Well maybe they (auto manufacturers) need to figure out how to, once the oil is changed, the reminder light goes out automatically. Heck, it comes on automatically. Then we wouldn't need to have it in the manual and we wouldn't need to look it up. Then the rest of us stupid people wouldn't need to come onto the forums and ask stupid questions, or listen to other people call us stupid......
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Its to get people to change oil. So many let it go many miles past due. If you use the proper oil all you need to do is use the message system that is provided.
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