Originally Posted by mantisman51
Neon SRT-4, BMW M3 M5, Mercedes C43 AMG, Spirit R/T Turbo, 94-96 Impala SS. Nope no real enthusiast would be caught in any of those worthless, uninspired 4 doors...rolls eyes thinking of all the gold chain wearing Disco Dans in their 85 Camaros.
Thanks, you just set up my argument perfectly: Every last one of those cars has a 2-door or 5-door/wagon variant thats closely related and therefore is a MUCH better choice. Some even have both as options. Someone with enthusiast leanings might choose one of those cars, but in my opinion it'd be a poorly thought out choice prioritizing the everyday transportation/family duties first.
If you have to have a family friendly ride, Im not knocking that for a second. Im saying that the sedan bodystyle is a **** poor choice since a similar wagon or 5-door offers SO much more. I think they LOOK cool too, but thats a matter of taste. Its a matter of FACT that when my buddy took his "midsize" Camry to Ikea and bought a queen matress/boxspring, lamp, 2 end tables, a book case, and a bedframe he could barely fit 1 end table and the lamp in his car. My compact GT Cruiser with seats removed hauled the rest with room to spare.
In case youre wondering why Id pick a PT Cruiser as a car, its because I already have a lifted Jeep which isnt the greatest roadtrip vehicle and its insane on gas. I wanted a second vehicle that would still be fun and offer some day to day practicality. I realized that the SRT-4 was only a sedan and that the PT GT has the same engine and an even better manual tranny. Not only does it perform almost as good as the SRT and look cool (I like the retro streetrod look) but its actually useful for doing things. The SRT-4 looks like crap to me (rental car sedan with ricer body mods) but it offers no utility at all. If there were a coupe version then that wouldve been my car. Ill sacrifice utility for style, but not the other way around.
Bottom line is, a 4 door sedan (with a traditional trunk) offers none of the clear advantages you would get with a coupe or a wagon/hatch but manages to get saddled with all of the DISadvantages: Lack of cargo space, combined with a longer, heavier body, and having 4 openings in that body means less rigidity. If all youre after is 'good enough' well then more power to you. I demand more for my hard earned dollar than some bean counter's half assed attempt at broadening the appeal of a pedestrian vehicle designed for the masses.
Youre right about the Danny Disco's in their Camaros...but Ill see youre Jersey Shore rejects and raise you a whole heap of popped collar pink polo shirt/sideways hat wearing D-bags out cruising in the Evos and STIs.