i dont know how they know for sure what is going to happen with the 2011 model...
i dont know why everyone gets worked up over 3.92s...those are like highway gears as far as im concerned...they need to offer a 4.10 or bigger for those who are actually going to drive the car the way that it is meant to be driven.
The question I have if these numbers are accurate is which sets of gears will they use on the Tremec. If they use the ones used in the Viper, the combined first gear ratio will be taller than what the automatic already offers and the overdrive will be significantly taller; however, if it uses ratios more similar to what the GT500 uses, it will have a shorter first gear for sure and a comparable overdrive that they currently have from the W5A580 transmission. Honestly, the best decision would be to use gearing more similar to what GM uses in their models like the Corvette. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-56 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tremec_...0_transmission
In my opinion, it is a waste of an extra ratio to have them placed too closely together without being able to better utilize both the fuel efficieny and slightly acceleration advantages over the 5-speed.
dakota2112, you have to remember that there are other factors in this equation besides just the axle ratio. If it gets the exact same gear ratios as the Viper version, then it will infact be worse than the 5-speed 3.07-3.06 offering found in the Charger, due to the fact of the excessively tall first gear ratio found in that version of the Tremec vs. the first gear found in the Charger's automatic.
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That is certainly a valid point; I would hope that the gearing will be better suited for the Challenger application but no details have been leaked on that one yet that I know of.
Do we actually have confirmation that the Challenger is not going to be mass produced? I know the initial production run is going to be low volume SRT but the insider information I've read indicates larger volume lower price for the following MY.
As for a 'Cuda, someone asked about it during a chat session w/ SRT engineers and their response essentially went something like "don't get your hopes up". I don't know if that response was specifically in reference to the 'Cuda pictured in this thread, or if it was in reference to the possibility of a 'Cuda in general... but look at it this way: Chrysler ponied up the Challenger partially in response to the uproar over the Charger sedan, so why are we already demanding a 'Cuda resurrection? I personally liked the early 70s Cuda w/ sharktooth grille and smoother bodymuch better than the Challenger, but I'd say one variant is enough for now. Even if they do offer a rebadged Challenger w/ special trim and goodies as a 'Cuda, it would utilize the same platform and would really be more-or-less the same car. Nothing wrong with that I suppose, but I just don't understand this anticipation and expectation of a 'Cuda so soon. If they domake a 'Cuda bodystyle option, great! But if not, the Challenger is mighty fine as-is.
Hereis a link. Earlier, we had quite a few references to this, but now they have stopped flowing and most of the threads must have been automatically deleted due to low activity.
I love this but IMHO, theres just not enough to separate it from the Chally. I wouldnt turn my nose up at either one long as it had 8 cylinders and 3 pedals on the floor...
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perhaps someone should point out that the challenger has ONLY EVER BEEN a rebadged car??
the original challenger was a rebadged plymouth cuda...which had been offered for 6 years by the time the challenger was released, and the late 1970s challenger was just a mitsubish galant lambda, turned mitsubishi sapporo, rebadged.
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I too relaize the 'Cuda version is just a "one off" for now, but hey, let's not forget that the Dart GTS started out that way too w/ Mr. Norm ramming a 383 in a lowly Dart when "Chrysler" said it could not be done. Then he stuck a 440 in it as well.
I could see them doing this depending on how the Challenger does. Especially if they outsource it to a "shop" which would then not screw up their production lines. In my scenario (just guessing here) they would be using Challengers and then changing grills, tail panels, hoods and other graphic elements. No doubt at a serious mark up though.
how do you figure that its not going to be made? theyre already taking orders, and theyve sold one already on ebay...
Hey at this rate... we'll be lucky if Chrysler makes it another year much less keep on keepin on with production of the Challenger! As much of a MOPAR fan as I am, I am quickly loosing faith in it lasting too much longer without some sort of miraculous turn-around. I have visions of it becoming corporate swiss cheese the way things are going... everybody will get a slice but us.
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