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another gorgeous car....with an AUTOMATIC?!?!?!?!?!
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No you couldnt call this thing Charger, maybe Stealth, The Chrysler Stealth or something...... but the New LX Charger has more in common with the 60s legend than this thing.. The Charger was never one of the most expensive American SUPER CARs in its day. People dont realize the 6.1 actually make closer to 440hp... This car might very well be in the low 12s with the right gear ratio.
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Old 01-13-2005, 02:08 PM
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It's American slang for $50,000.
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No you couldnt call this thing Charger, maybe Stealth, The Chrysler Stealth or something...... but the New LX Charger has more in common with the 60s legend than this thing.. The Charger was never one of the most expensive American SUPER CARs in its day. People dont realize the 6.1 actually make closer to 440hp... This car might very well be in the low 12s with the right gear ratio.
$50K is not that expensive by today's standards for the performance the Firepower offers. Granted, it's probably out of the price range for most of the Charger LX market. The Firepower just looks more like my idea of a modern Charger than the brick on the LX platform - but that's just me. Ideally, I say call the LX version a Coronet and make a 2+2 Dodge version (2 doors and a back seat) of the Firepower called the Hemi Charger. But, we all know that ain't gonna happen.

You're right about the 1/4 mile times. Motor Trend got the 300C SRT-8 to run 13.2. That's a set of sticky tires and a tail wind short of solid 12s. They estimate the Firepower to run 12.8 which I think is too conservative based on power to weight ratios. With 425 hp at the flywheel and weighing 3,400 lbs it should run 12.2.
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Asp, what I meant by expensive is closer to 100K, this Firepower will be much more that 50 or 60K if made,..... Atleast 75K bucks
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You may very well be right. Car and Driver says $50K - $60K but its only an estimate. We'll have to wait and see IF they ever build it. We can always hope.
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Yea right look at the Cross-fire, and its smaller and does not have no Viper Chassis. Id say MSRP 70K.........
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this car is great if it sells good on a good price, lower than $40,000 to compete for the New Muscle Car era. The Charger will not do that job.
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this probably wont compete in the musclecar class because this is not a musclecar- its a sports car, just like corvettes and vipers.
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What is a Musclecar?

The term was coined in the 60s to describe a mid size car with a big engine and very few options, i. e. the GTO, Chevelle, Roadrunner, etc. The idea was to make a fast car that any pimple-faced kid in high school could afford on their $3/hr part time job. GTXs usually included a bunch of luxury options and were relatively pricey but they are considered musclecars. Eventually, musclecars included pony cars such as the Camaro, Mustang, Cuda and Challenger. Musclecars also came to include sports cars like the Vette and SC Cobra. Many people call my '65 Plymouth a musclecar. It's really a clone of a factory super stock race car but it's easier to just let it go than to try to explain it to everyone. The definition of a musclecar has become so blurred that it now refers to just about any domestic performance car.

What does everyone else think? What is your definition of a musclecar? Maybe we should open a new thread for this. It might be an interesting discussion.
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