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Old 09-08-2009, 12:30 PM
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Exclamation 2005 Caravan 3.3 V6 Engine noise

I have a weird noise from the engine of my Caravan. It's a 3.3 V6 with only 70'000 km's.

At idle you can hear a distinct erratic light rattle/cracking sound. I have taken it to my local Dodge dealer & they road tested it and without any delay they told me that the noise is the normal operation of the lifters, apparently they have heard a few cases of this ??

The noise is loudest if you listen by the right front wheel. I have removed the Auxiliary belt to see if it was a noisy water pump....etc but the noise was still there. It's weird that my 2001 3.3 Caravan did not make a sound & I have not heard it from other Caravans ??

Are Dodge trying to palm me off or has anybody heard of this type of complaint ?

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Old 09-08-2009, 02:28 PM
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I too have a 2005 Caravan with the 3.3 V-6. Mine is at 78,000 miles with a similar odd sound from the passenger side of the engine. Lifter noise should be coming from the middle of the engine not the drive belt side in my opinion. I know I have a belt and/or pullly bearing issue.

But if you have removed the serpentine belt then no accessory (water pump, power steering pump, A/C, alternator) or pulley (tensioner/idler) would be turning.

I've been thinking if my noise source could be the timing chain itself.
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Old 09-09-2009, 02:13 AM
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My van makes the same noise. I think there is some slop in the timing chain and that is whats causing the noise. I was planning on replacing it this summer but had too many other projects and didn't get around to it. I heard another van in a parking lot the other day make the same noise.
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Old 09-09-2009, 12:05 PM
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I feel a little better knowing that it's not just mine making the noise !!

I suppose the guys at Dodge might be telling the truth when they say it's lifters making the noise. They did tell me that not every one makes the noise ?

When I removed the Aux belt I tried to locate the noise with a stethoscope but no matter where I put it I could not pinpoint the noise, but I must admit I did not place it on the cylinder head because the noise sounded low down.
But it does sound exactly like a failing water pump or AC compressor ??

I'll keep an eye on it & if it gets any worse then I guess my power train warranty will come in useful.
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:33 PM
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Mine does the same thing and has since i bought it with 90k, now has 138k has not gotten any worse. It does sound like a timing chain rattle
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:23 PM
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Default Odd noise right side.

I have a 99 caravan 3.3L. 124k.
My wife recently pointed out a noise from the engine.
It sounded to me like a bearing. I checked the idler and tensioner for looseness, grinding or gritty feel. None. There was some rubber stuck to the pulleys which I scraped off but no difference.
I know I need a H2O pump. It weeps a bit in winter. I noticed the pump pulley has some axial play in it.
I also noticed that the main drive pulley seems to be a bit wobbly. It seems tight when the belt is off, i.e., I can't wiggle it by hand, but with the engine running I can see it wobbling. Possible partial de-lamination of the rubber damper? Normal?
Now you guys have me thinking it may be timing chain. I've probed around with a long screwdriver to my ear but can't seem to pinpoint anything definate.
I don't want to take it somewhere and have them just shotgun parts in it til it's fixed. If I have to take it in, I'd like at least a general prognosis first.
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:05 PM
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Is the noise that any of you posters describing just at start up in morning only?

Every time you start up?

How long does the sound stay before transitioning away, if it does at all?

Is the sound towards the upper, or below portion of engine/rear pulley by power steering pump?

thanks for any responses coming fourth.
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:09 PM
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Mine is always. Passenger side, seems to be forward, so H2O pump is a suspect. Hard to determine exact location. As I said, screwdriver to the ear method was inconclusive. I'm concerned also about the seemingly unstable drive pulley/harmonic dampener. Maybe its supposed to appear wobbly and is doing its job . . . dampening. ???
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Old 05-05-2011, 11:03 AM
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If it is making a rattling noise like ' tack tack tack" Pretty quickly, Then it is possible for the Lifters to be the problem.

Get the sthetoscope and put it in the heads. If it is, IT WILL BE LOUD!

I can't comment on the water pump or the timing belt. Only way i know it is a timing belt is when you have some hard starts and when it does it stalls or hesitates alot.

Im not expert, Just my $0.02
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Old 09-04-2011, 11:32 PM
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A quick search regarding a noise like that on 3.3 brings up lots of cases where a clogged oil way in the head caused loud lifter noise in the back bank which eventually led to serious damage in fairly low mileage engines. I would not ignore it. Maybe try oil flush and high quality synthetic oil. Several reported Chrysler actually replaced engines under warranty when it started with a single very loud lifter/valve train rattle or click.

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Old 04-15-2014, 06:58 PM
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I have a weird noise from the engine of my Caravan. It's a 3.3 V6 with only 70'000 km's.

At idle you can hear a distinct erratic light rattle/cracking sound. I have taken it to my local Dodge dealer & they road tested it and without any delay they told me that the noise is the normal operation of the lifters, apparently they have heard a few cases of this ??

The noise is loudest if you listen by the right front wheel. I have removed the Auxiliary belt to see if it was a noisy water pump....etc but the noise was still there. It's weird that my 2001 3.3 Caravan did not make a sound & I have not heard it from other Caravans ??

Are Dodge trying to palm me off or has anybody heard of this type of complaint ?

Thanks
Caravans have a clutch in the alt pulley. mine was making a noise like that. took the alt off and had the pulley replaced, noise gone

Bim
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:51 AM
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But wouldn't removing the belt so he could test to see if sound continued eliminate the pulley from revolving on the alt. thus eliminate the pulley from being the problem?

I had similar sound if not exact one. mechanic told me its the valve cover that is resonating sound. I didn't buy that, i thought it was the pulley on alt. also. i replaced it and sound was gone.
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:57 AM
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I recorded the sound of my engine making sound prior to changing pulley on alt.
Maybe the sound is similar to yours.

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Old 11-17-2014, 03:06 PM
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Default squeeking noise

My 2005 Grand Caravan makes a squeeking noise common for the drive belt or alternator. I changed the belt and tension-er arm, it still makes the noise. I think I have tracked it down to the vibration pulley, is this a common thing?
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Old 11-18-2014, 03:41 PM
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I have had to replace the idler/tensioner pulley on all 3 I have owned. Never caused a problem except that awful noise. Easy repair though.
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I have a weird noise from the engine of my Caravan. It's a 3.3 V6 with only 70'000 km's.

At idle you can hear a distinct erratic light rattle/cracking sound. I have taken it to my local Dodge dealer & they road tested it and without any delay they told me that the noise is the normal operation of the lifters, apparently they have heard a few cases of this ??

The noise is loudest if you listen by the right front wheel. I have removed the Auxiliary belt to see if it was a noisy water pump....etc but the noise was still there. It's weird that my 2001 3.3 Caravan did not make a sound & I have not heard it from other Caravans ??

Are Dodge trying to palm me off or has anybody heard of this type of complaint ?

Thanks
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Old 11-18-2014, 03:45 PM
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My 2005 Grand Caravan makes a squeeking noise common for the drive belt or alternator. I changed the belt and tension-er arm, it still makes the noise. I think I have tracked it down to the vibration pulley, is this a common thing?
I have had to replace the idler/tensioner pullpulley on all three i have owned. Never caused a problem except that awful noise. If the bearing locks up it will burn the belt.
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Old 11-18-2014, 03:49 PM
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I had one do that. Just a noisy lifter...i thought...till it stopped oiling one cylinder and destroyed the engine. Apparently there is one oil passage back there that clogs and causes that lifter to run dry.
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I have had to replace the idler/tensioner pulley on all 3 I have owned. Never caused a problem except that awful noise. Easy repair though.
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Old 11-19-2014, 11:46 AM
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I have a 2004 Caravan.

The noise I had was the clutch pulley on the alternator. At idle rattles, more when it's cold.

I didn't know that alternators had clutches, replaced the pulley noise gone. $ 50.00

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Old 11-20-2014, 03:26 PM
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Did you listen to the audio that I recorded in my post within this thread?
That was the pulley sound that I was getting bad. That was my pullye on alt.
I took off the alt. but the pulley was to difficult without the tool and the tool was too expensiive.

I went to an alt. shop they removed the pulley. I brought my own pulley with clutch. I didn't buy the gates pulley. bought the good year one. it too has clutch. been working for quite long time, no problems no more sound.
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