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Old 03-16-2011, 07:07 AM
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Default Keyless entry

I bought a 2003 Grand Caravan SE and it did not have a key fob. Were all these cars equipped with "keyless" entry?
Anything special about the fob if I get a replacement?
How do you tell if it has keyless entry?

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Old 03-16-2011, 07:11 AM
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Not all came with RKE. You take the VIN number to your local Dodge dealer and they type it into the computer which will list all options the vehicle came with. (my Dodge dealer Parts Department did this for me)
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Old 03-16-2011, 07:15 AM
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You know I just read on another forum that;
If the sliding doors do not have a "key hole" then it has keyless entry?
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Old 03-16-2011, 06:07 PM
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Without actually running the VIN search, it's all just a guess. After all, do you think that every forum is always right?
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:35 PM
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Without actually running the VIN search, it's all just a guess. After all, do you think that every forum is always right?
No, I don't! However if I had been down this road before with a Caravan I would probably be able to answer this question based on my experience and this is what I'm hopeing for here. I'm a retired Master ASE tech but I did not worked for the Chrysler Corp. so I'm just looking for others opinion's.
The doors also lock automatically after about 15 MPH, so there is probably a clue here somewhere if you know this product. I don't have a Shop manual or wiring diagram yet.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:00 PM
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Having the VIN run thru Dodge data base you will know EVERY option the van came with.

Even if your van came with RKE, the only way I know of having new fobs formated to the vehicle requires Dealer only flash access. So no matter what your issue, looks like you'll need to do the unthinkable and what you are obviously trying to avoid... Visit a dealer.

My folks have several chrysler vehicles with rolling door locks and some do not have key fobs nor did they come with it. I remember their 1996 Plymouth grand voyager. it had power locks with manual windows, 3.0 3speed trans and it had automatic locks and no fobs. They bought it brand new.

If you remove the upper dash on your van, and see a black box approximately the size of a pack of smokes, you have rke. So there does that answer your question without going to the dealer and having an option search done?
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:06 PM
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I won't be going to the dealer.
I understand that the new remotes can be programed by shorting pins 1 and 4 of the ODB2 connector, or is that just more forum fodder?
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:13 PM
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According to the FSM, if you don't have a key fob, it has to go thru a dealer for programming. if you have one functional, then using that fob, you can program up to 3 more to match the vehicle.

IDK why a former ASE certified mechanic would be so opposed to just doing the job right?

If this was my issue, I'd go to the junkyard, find a van with RKE that had the fobs with the car, pull the module and fobs, then install that module in my vehicle. Sure worked out to be a lot cheaper and easier, but then what do I know, I'm no ASE master, just a guy that's cheap.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:15 PM
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never heard this so i be carefull in shorting anything until you know for sure.


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I won't be going to the dealer.
I understand that the new remotes can be programed by shorting pins 1 and 4 of the ODB2 connector, or is that just more forum fodder?
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:01 AM
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Never heard or seen any official info that says shorting pins on OBD connector for Key fob programming. Only way i know is using scanner or existing Key Fob to enter programing mode.

If you aren't going to the dealer but wants RKE, you best bet is Aftermarket alarm system, assuming u have power lock.
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:13 AM
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http://www.ehow.com/how_6194237_prog...emote-fob.html

Instructions

things you'll need:

  • The correct key fob for your car.
  • These instructions.
    • 1 Turn ignition to OFF.
    • 2 Click the image to open in full size. Dodge Vehicle Data Link Connector Location Locate the Data Link Connector, it is a black 16 pin connecter that is under the driver's side dash, right where your right knee would be. You have to look up into the dash from below to see it.
      The image shown is the location in a 2005 Dodge Ram Truck. The location varies depending on year and make of Dodge, but it is in the same general area under the driver's side dash on all models.
    • 3 Click the image to open in full size. Dodge Vehicle Data Link Connector Pin Out Diagram Ground pin 1 of the Data Link Connector by taking a wire or paper clip and running it from pin 1 to pin 4. Pin 4 is ground so you can just short pin 1 to 4 and it will be grounded. Grounding pin 1 tells the system you are ready to reprogram it.
      Image show is pin out diagram of Dodge Vehicle data link connector.
    • 4 Close all of your doors.
    • 5 Turn the key to ACCESSORY position and then back to the OFF position. (The accessory is one position forward from off. Do not crank engine in this step. If engine cranks accidently start back at step one.)
      The power door locks will lock/unlock. This is the signal that the system is ready for reprogramming.
    • 6 Click the image to open in full size. Dodge Keyless Entry Fob Push a button any button on the first key fob to be programmed.
      The image shown is of one type of Dodge keyless entry fob, yours may not look identical but the instructions will still work.
    • 7 If you have two (2) or more total key fobs, then press a button on the second and each additional fob within one (1) minute of pressing a button on the first fob.
      All fobs, including any existing fobs must be programmed at the same time.
      If you only have one (1) fob or after all you have finished programming all fobs, press a button two (2) more times to signal that you have programmed all fobs.
    • 8 The doors will lock/unlock to signal that the codes were received correctly.
    • 9 Remove the jumper wire or paper clip from the data connector. Programming is now complete - congratulations you've done it yourself and saved some money.


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Old 03-17-2011, 12:38 AM
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That instruction is for the Full size B-van, not the Minivan. Well, give it a try and keep us posted.
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:45 AM
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It just said Dodge, the picture is for a Ram truck. I saw it elsewhere on the net also. Someone else here was kind enough to run my vin and it looks like my van is not equipped with a remote module.
So it looks like an after market entry. Thanks...
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Old 05-11-2011, 07:55 AM
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What if you dont have a pin 1?
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Old 05-20-2011, 08:12 PM
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Unhappy 2005 Dodge Caravan Keyless Remote - reprogram

22DODGE22 - this question is for you------------------------------------
I have a 2005 dodge caravan with two keyless entry keys that where working great. one still does. however, the other key just stopped working. i assumed it was a dead battery. bought new batteries, not the problem. then i tried the "dead: battery on the other keyless remote and it worked great. it worked up until it "died" on me. nothing has happened - no water damage, didn't drop it, etc. i am looking to see if there are instructions on how to program the keyless entry on the second remote. i honestly, would take it to a dealership for them to program it, but we just do not have the money in the bank to pay them. my husband and i have been out of work since feb 2010. we're struggling financially. but we really would like to get it working again. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!
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Old 12-28-2011, 11:02 PM
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What I don't have a pin 1 on the connector its smog
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Old 12-28-2011, 11:22 PM
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What was the question? Also this is a pretty old post. Could you please start a new thread and post your questions. This way all members can help you.
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