Recommended spark plugs for 2006 GC 3.8L?
#1
Recommended spark plugs for 2006 GC 3.8L?
Just coming up on 100k miles on this 2006 GC 3.8L, and it's time to change the plugs and wires. I made the mistake of using Bosch platinums in my '97 Saturn a year ago; if only I'd checked the SaturnFans forum first! Which is why I come here to ask for seemingly simple advice on the GC.
I'm willing to pay more for good plugs, if the cost/benefit ratio is reasonable. Any recommendations?
Also, any advice on whether to change plugs ONLY when the engine is "overnight" cold? Or is slightly warm o.k.? (It'll be below freezing in the morning.)
I'm willing to pay more for good plugs, if the cost/benefit ratio is reasonable. Any recommendations?
Also, any advice on whether to change plugs ONLY when the engine is "overnight" cold? Or is slightly warm o.k.? (It'll be below freezing in the morning.)
Last edited by Dan400Man; 03-10-2012 at 01:03 AM. Reason: Added temperature question
#2
Don't go for fancy plugs as you will likely regret it like so many have already.
Refer to the Vehicle Emission Control Information label in the engine compartment for the spark plugs to use. Most likely Champion RE14PLP5. Here's the Champion installation instructions including anti-seize (not required/recommended as there is a coating on them from the factory) and installation tips. http://dodgeram.info/Engine-Gas/Spar...plghnbook.html
To make things super easier and to be able to actually torque the plugs to 13 ft.lb., I remove the wiper tray (about 15 minutes). Don't forget the dielectric grease for the boots.
Refer to the Vehicle Emission Control Information label in the engine compartment for the spark plugs to use. Most likely Champion RE14PLP5. Here's the Champion installation instructions including anti-seize (not required/recommended as there is a coating on them from the factory) and installation tips. http://dodgeram.info/Engine-Gas/Spar...plghnbook.html
Here are a couple of tips to help assure the success of changing spark plugs. The first is to remove spark plugs from aluminum cylinder heads only when the engine is cool. Since aluminum and steel expand and contract at different rates, removing spark plugs from an aluminum cylinder head while hot can actually cause thread and cylinder head damage. Before installing the spark plugs, make sure the threads are clean and in good condition. If in doubt, run a thread chaser through the plug opening in the cylinder head. Champion recommends that you do not use an anti-seize compound, since one has already been applied to the plugs at the factory. Next, install the spark plugs finger tight and, it using a taper seat spark plug, use a ratchet to rotate 1/16 of a turn. If using a gasket seat type spark plug, after installing finger tight, turn 1/4 to 5/8 of a turn. If this procedure is followed, spark plugs will not back out nor will they seize in the cylinder head.
Last edited by TJeepman; 03-10-2012 at 09:34 AM.
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Geez. Didn't even think to look for that label! You're right, it's RE14PLP5. So, the OEM *is* a platinum plug then? Any advice on whether to trust that these are pre-gapped to the spec 0.050"? The gapper I have maxxes out at 0.040", so I'll have to get another one if I need to gap these plugs.
LOL on 15 minutes to remove the wiper tray. I've opened a separate thread, found here to ask how to get the wiper arms off the studs.
LOL on 15 minutes to remove the wiper tray. I've opened a separate thread, found here to ask how to get the wiper arms off the studs.
Last edited by Dan400Man; 03-10-2012 at 06:55 PM. Reason: Moved question about wiper arm removal to a new thread
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Geez. Didn't even think to look for that label! You're right, it's RE14PLP5. So, the OEM *is* a platinum plug then? Any advice on whether to trust that these are pre-gapped to the spec 0.050"? The gapper I have maxxes out at 0.040", so I'll have to get another one if I need to gap these plugs.
LOL on 15 minutes to remove the wiper tray. I've opened a separate thread, found here to ask how to get the wiper arms off the studs.
LOL on 15 minutes to remove the wiper tray. I've opened a separate thread, found here to ask how to get the wiper arms off the studs.
As to gap, they are pregapped (my experience) but I check them anyway in case one got dropped along the way and the gap closed up. I use air to blow out the dirt, once before I remove the plug and once (in the hole) after the plug is removed.
Other things you might want to consider while the wiper tray is removed and everything is opened up to do a good job:
- wiper motor and hoses
- pcv valve.
- valve pan cover gaskets.
- power steering hoses and pump.
- spark plug wires. I have Champion on my 2002 and they have performed great for three+ years now.
- looking at coolant lines, maybe need a mirror to help there as there is one is typically tucked in close to the back side of the engine. They can rust out and be a bear to remove.
- applying Fluid Film rustproofing especially to any steel coolant lines or rusted areas or clamps.
Last edited by TJeepman; 03-10-2012 at 08:25 PM.
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... Here's the Champion installation instructions including anti-seize (not required/recommended as there is a coating on them from the factory) and installation tips. http://dodgeram.info/Engine-Gas/Spar...plghnbook.html ...
Hopefully there are others using this plug who didn't use anti-seize and had no issues removing them at replacement time.
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There doesn't look like there's any coating on them. I note that the web page you linked was last updated 8 years ago and, FWIW, the copyright was 1998. The Champion pages on Federal Mogul's site make no mention of this (although it's almost completely void of useful technical information anyway). Just to confirm, these are the Double Platinum Power plugs RE14PLP5. There's no mention on the packaging about anti-seize, although there are instructions for tightening (1/2 turn with gasket, 1/16 turn without gasket), and one might be inclined to believe that if anti-seize was required, they would have included that there.
Hopefully there are others using this plug who didn't use anti-seize and had no issues removing them at replacement time.
Hopefully there are others using this plug who didn't use anti-seize and had no issues removing them at replacement time.
Most, maybe all plugs these days have a coating or plating of some sort on them that serves a similar function to anti seize. Here's what NGK has at http://www.ngkplugpro.ca/content/con...SparkPlugs.pdf
Solution
For spark plugs with special metal plating; anti-seize is not recommended during installation.
Additional Information
It is recommended to use spark plugs with the special plating on all aluminum cylinder head applications to prevent damage to the cylinder head. All NGK Spark Plugs are manufactured with special shell plating on the metal body.
For spark plugs with special metal plating; anti-seize is not recommended during installation.
Additional Information
It is recommended to use spark plugs with the special plating on all aluminum cylinder head applications to prevent damage to the cylinder head. All NGK Spark Plugs are manufactured with special shell plating on the metal body.
Last edited by TJeepman; 03-17-2012 at 07:01 PM.