[3rd Gen : 96-00]: fried two coils
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fried two coils
I've been having some electrical problems for weeks (dash lights, gauges wouldn't come on, car would turn over but not start. Also car would cut off for no reason and check engine light would come on, then I would turn it off and restart and it would run fine and light would go off). I replaced my ignition switch and at first it still didn't start(gauges and dash lights didn't come on). Next day I checked connections on the ignition switch and it started and ran fine until I smelled burning electrical stuff under hood and noticed a fried coil. I replaced the coil and it ran poorly until I smelled the burning electrical and noticed my new coil was fried. Where do i go from here.
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I don't even know where to start in ohm checking the wires. Any tips?
#5
Main wiring harness work is a nightmare. Even to say screw it and going to buy a brand new one takes a lot of back and forth with a dealer, since there are no aftermarket sellers. Last I checked it was a 1k USD part and that is with no service costs..
Smart way to fix your problem: Us a wireless short finder, if you find nothing it's on DTC wiring, in a computer, or a regulator.
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You can start by testing the coil drivers in the PCM as MT stated. Disconnect the coil connector then connect a test light at each of the driver pins. As you crank the engine the light should blink. If it stays on steady you'll need to replace the PCM. If it doesn't come on at all, check continuity of that wire from the coil to the PCM. If that's good replace the PCM. If there is a problem I'd guess you'll see the light staying on meaning that coil would always be energized frying the coil.
If I had your model year and engine I could tell you which pins to check.
The voltage regulator is in the PCM.
If I had your model year and engine I could tell you which pins to check.
The voltage regulator is in the PCM.
Last edited by Cougar41; 09-06-2014 at 10:44 PM.
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You can start by testing the coil drivers in the PCM as MT stated. Disconnect the coil connector then connect a test light at each of the driver pins. As you crank the engine the light should blink. If it stays on steady you'll need to replace the PCM. If it doesn't come on at all, check continuity of that wire from the coil to the PCM. If that's good replace the PCM. If there is a problem I'd guess you'll see the light staying on meaning that coil would always be energized frying the coil.
If I had your model year and engine I could tell you which pins to check.
The voltage regulator is in the PCM.
If I had your model year and engine I could tell you which pins to check.
The voltage regulator is in the PCM.
Again, there is no such thing as a PCM by ANY manufacturer that still functions when ANY part of it's PCB bus fails. There are only permanent DTC writes that need a re-flash. They are caused by external fault logged x-start-ups.
The suggested test of the two of four wires going to the coil block from the PCM isn't going to yield anything since those are timing feedback for the PCM.. Trace the other two and you'll likely find the actual problem.. Same on all 2005 configurations..
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Actually it's three wires from the PCM driver's, one per driver, to the coil plus the B+ power input to the coil, but who's counting, and that's if we're talking about a coil pack on a 3.3 or 3.8. I would be more that willing to risk less than 5 minutes of my time testing inputs that often fail due to bad driver circuits in the PCM that have been attested to countless times on this and other forums over many many years and is considered a standard test in the industry.
Last edited by Cougar41; 09-07-2014 at 08:14 PM.
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Actually it's three wires from the PCM driver's, one per driver, to the coil plus the B+ power input to the coil, but who's counting, and that's if we're talking about a coil pack on a 3.3 or 3.8. I would be more that willing to risk less than 5 minutes of my time testing inputs that often fail due to bad driver circuits in the PCM that have been attested to countless times on this and other forums over many many years and is considered a standard test in the industry.
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It's a '96, 3.3. The pcm harness looks like it's been rubbing on the edge of a frame piece. If that's not it I see no other solution then to buy a used pcm (and coil) from a junk yard and experiment. Why wouldn't this problem be indicated by a fault code? I paid a guy to read the codes and they found nothing.