[4th Gen : 01-07]: 2005 grand caravan PCM
#1
2005 grand caravan PCM
My pcm is shot. I got used one from the exact same year, model, and options. It just has a different vin stored in it. My question is: does it need to be flashed? Or should it work since it has all the same options on it. It's the same 3.8 liter engine and everything.
#2
Poking round the net I'm finding there's a yes camp and a no camp so your guess is as good as mine. Here's one example: http://www.justanswer.com/dodge/3iov...m-reflash.html
On earlier vans it wasn't a problem. Just had to make sure the security programming matched. Might send Tizzy1 or MasterTech a private message. They are techs.
On earlier vans it wasn't a problem. Just had to make sure the security programming matched. Might send Tizzy1 or MasterTech a private message. They are techs.
Last edited by Cougar41; 01-28-2015 at 03:59 PM.
#3
Yeah, I was running into the same thing. Some were saying yes, and some no. I don't see why it wouldn't work given the fact it has the same options, so it wouldn't hurt to at least attempt it without the re-flash. The dealer told me that it is required....buuuuttt the last time I talked with the dealer mechanic, they didn't know squat and gave me incorrect information. I will repost to validate whether it works or not. Thanks
#4
It depends on whether or not your vehicle has a security system that locks out fuel delivery when the vehicle is started with a key that doesn't match programming in the computer. Modern vehicle keys have a chip with a code that must match a corresponding code in the computer. Some are so sophisticated that the same code appears in the Body Control Module (BCM) and a computer chip in your ignition switch module. I have even heard of cases where putting in a used ECM can 'poison' the BCM and render them both useless. To be safe, you may need to talk to a knowledgeable Chrysler Tech that can look up your VIN and see how the vehicle was equipped.
I have heard of people buying an ECM, BCM, and steering column from a junked vehicle just to get all the matching (coded) pieces that will make the vehicle run.
Another option is to call one of the online ECM rebuilders to see what they say. They may have VIN lookup capability and can guide you. They may also have the capability to flash clean your used computer then put in your VIN and factory setup so that it will work.
I have heard of people buying an ECM, BCM, and steering column from a junked vehicle just to get all the matching (coded) pieces that will make the vehicle run.
Another option is to call one of the online ECM rebuilders to see what they say. They may have VIN lookup capability and can guide you. They may also have the capability to flash clean your used computer then put in your VIN and factory setup so that it will work.
#5
The full sentence would be: "The dealer told me that it is required, in order to increase their bottom line."
Glad to see you were willing to accept Cougar's answer, because last year some guy was flaming the fourms for not giving him a definite yes or no. So sure, give it try.
You didn't post the problem(s) or the code(s) - are you certain it's the PCM?
One other thought, assuming your PCM is in fact bad and the replacement doesn't work asis. Don't know what you paid for the part, but reprogramming at a dealership costs somewhere around $100. If the flash works, great and you're all set. But if the PCM still doesn't work at that point, you're out the cost of the part + $100 (the dealer will not give you a refund). In order to avoid this possibility, you could buy a PCM programmed to your vin from one of the online computer parts outfits. I think these PCMs still go for around $200, but the reputable sellers will send another part if the first one doesn't work. Probably comes down to how you think your luck is running lately.
Glad to see you were willing to accept Cougar's answer, because last year some guy was flaming the fourms for not giving him a definite yes or no. So sure, give it try.
You didn't post the problem(s) or the code(s) - are you certain it's the PCM?
One other thought, assuming your PCM is in fact bad and the replacement doesn't work asis. Don't know what you paid for the part, but reprogramming at a dealership costs somewhere around $100. If the flash works, great and you're all set. But if the PCM still doesn't work at that point, you're out the cost of the part + $100 (the dealer will not give you a refund). In order to avoid this possibility, you could buy a PCM programmed to your vin from one of the online computer parts outfits. I think these PCMs still go for around $200, but the reputable sellers will send another part if the first one doesn't work. Probably comes down to how you think your luck is running lately.
#6
The full sentence would be: "The dealer told me that it is required, in order to increase their bottom line."
Glad to see you were willing to accept Cougar's answer, because last year some guy was flaming the fourms for not giving him a definite yes or no. So sure, give it try.
You didn't post the problem(s) or the code(s) - are you certain it's the PCM?
One other thought, assuming your PCM is in fact bad and the replacement doesn't work asis. Don't know what you paid for the part, but reprogramming at a dealership costs somewhere around $100. If the flash works, great and you're all set. But if the PCM still doesn't work at that point, you're out the cost of the part + $100 (the dealer will not give you a refund). In order to avoid this possibility, you could buy a PCM programmed to your vin from one of the online computer parts outfits. I think these PCMs still go for around $200, but the reputable sellers will send another part if the first one doesn't work. Probably comes down to how you think your luck is running lately.
Glad to see you were willing to accept Cougar's answer, because last year some guy was flaming the fourms for not giving him a definite yes or no. So sure, give it try.
You didn't post the problem(s) or the code(s) - are you certain it's the PCM?
One other thought, assuming your PCM is in fact bad and the replacement doesn't work asis. Don't know what you paid for the part, but reprogramming at a dealership costs somewhere around $100. If the flash works, great and you're all set. But if the PCM still doesn't work at that point, you're out the cost of the part + $100 (the dealer will not give you a refund). In order to avoid this possibility, you could buy a PCM programmed to your vin from one of the online computer parts outfits. I think these PCMs still go for around $200, but the reputable sellers will send another part if the first one doesn't work. Probably comes down to how you think your luck is running lately.
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#8
Yes, if the vehicle is re-flashed and the anti-theft code is programmed to match the BCM and SKIM module in the steering column. The vehicle will probably need to be at the dealership at the time it is programmed up.
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#10
My keys to this van are not grey. They are black. Does that change anything? It looks like this:
Last edited by BrettRunner; 02-02-2015 at 12:56 PM.