EGR and Evap not ready errors?

[seanjames]

Have been trying to get our 01 Grand Caravan to pass the emissions test. It started off months ago with an 442 error then more recently with a 455 error added. I replaced the gas cap and reset the computer by disconnecting the neg. cable and turning the ignition on. Check engine light has stayed off since I did that. I day later I had my wife take it in for the emissions test and it failed beacause of Evaporative System not ready and EGR System Not Ready. I had did a search but could not find any real answer as to how long does it take the computer to check those and display a ready status? Can Autozone or similar check for it with a code reader since it realy isn't spitting a code out? Any help would be wonderful. Thanks Sean

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[seanjames]

FYI - I was informed to do a OBD II drive cycle, did that and it passed.

Sean

[jeeper183]

P0445 and P0442 ia a large and a medium evap leak, check all your emmision vacum lines from the charcoal canister under van, to purge selenoid (underhood), especialy two lines behind air filter box. they have tendancy to crack or split .

[Chump]

TRIP DEFINITION
A "Trip" means vehicle operation (following an engine-off period) of duration and driving mode such that all components and systems are monitored at least once by the diagnostic system. The monitors must successfully pass before the PCM can verify that a previously malfunctioning component is meeting the normal operating conditions of that component. For misfire or fuel system malfunction, the MIL may be extinguished if the fault does not recur when monitored during three subsequent sequential driving cycles in which conditions are similar to those under which the malfunction was first determined.

Anytime the MIL is illuminated, a DTC is stored. The DTC can self erase only when the MIL has been extinguished. Once the MIL is extinguished, the PCM must pass the diagnostic test for the most recent DTC for 40 warm-up cycles(80 warm-up cycles for the Fuel System Monitor and the Misfire Monitor).

A warm-up cycle can best be described by the following:
• The engine must be running
• A rise of 40 °F in engine temperature must occur from the time when the engine was started
• Engine coolant temperature must reach at least 160 °F
• A "driving cycle" that consists of engine start up and engine shut off.
Once the above conditions occur, the PCM is considered to have passed a warm-up cycle. Due to the conditions required to extinguish the MIL and erase the DTC, it is most important that after a repair has been made, all DTC's be erased and the repair verified.

TRIP INDICATOR
The Trip is essential for running monitors and extinguishing the MIL. In OBD II terms, a trip is a set of vehicle operating conditions that must be met for a specific monitor to run. All trips begin with a key cycle.

Good Trip
The Good Trip counters are as follows:
• Global Good Trip
• Fuel System Good Trip
• Misfire Good Trip
• Alternate Good Trip (appears as a Global Good Trip on DRB III)
• Comprehensive Components Major Monitor
• Warm-Up Cycles
Global Good Trip
To increment a Global Good Trip, the Oxygen sensor and Catalyst efficiency monitors must have run and passed.

Fuel System Good Trip
To count a good trip (three required) and turn off the MIL, the following conditions must occur:
• Engine in closed loop
• Operating in Similar Conditions Window
• Short Term multiplied by Long Term less than threshold
• Less than threshold for a predetermined time
If all of the previous criteria are met, the PCM will count a good trip (three required) and turn off the MIL.

Misfire Good Trip
If the following conditions are met the PCM will count one good trip (three required) in order to turn OFF the MIL:
• Operating in Similar Condition Window
• 1000 engine revolutions with no misfire
Alternate Good Trip
Alternate Good Trips are used in place of Global Good Trips for Comprehensive Components and Major Monitors. If the Task Manager cannot run a Global Good Trip because a component fault is stopping the monitor from running, it will attempt to count an Alternate Good Trip.

The Task Manager counts an Alternate Good Trip for Comprehensive components when the following conditions are met:
• Two minutes of engine run time
• No other faults occur
The Task Manager counts an Alternate Good Trip for a Major Monitor when the monitor runs and passes. Only the Major Monitor that failed needs to pass to count an Alternate Good Trip.

Warm-Up Cycles
Once the MIL has been extinguished by the Good Trip Counter, the PCM automatically switches to a Warm-Up Cycle Counter that can be viewed on the DRB III. Warm-Up Cycles are used to erase DTCs and Freeze Frames. Forty Warm-Up cycles must occur in order for the PCM to self-erase a DTC and Freeze Frame.

A Warm-Up Cycle is defined as follows:
• Engine coolant temperature must start below and rise above 160 °F
• Engine coolant temperature must rise by 40 °F
• No further faults occur