There is a person locally that is selling a 1967 Dodge delivery van, and I would like to get some more information on the vehicle. The sale sign in the window is so faded that I can read nothing, not even the phone number for the person trying to sell it. So, before hunting the person down, I thought I would see what I could find out.
What I know, which is not much, I realize: tall van- 6'+ person could fully stand up. Rear roll up door. Side front doors on both sides. The front windshield is very interesting, as it slopes outward from the roof, then a second set of small windows are under the main window which slope back towards the body, and then the body drops straight down with the grill, etc..
I hope I have described the windows adequately. Very much appreciate any information, as I have found nothing so far.
Thanks!
Ray~
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The sale sign in the window is so faded that I can read nothing, not even the phone number for the person trying to sell it. So, before hunting the person down, I thought I would see what I could find out.
One would have to wonder WHY it has been for sale for so long without anyone buying it.
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What I know, which is not much, I realize: tall van- 6'+ person could fully stand up. Rear roll up door. Side front doors on both sides. The front windshield is very interesting, as it slopes outward from the roof, then a second set of small windows are under the main window which slope back towards the body, and then the body drops straight down with the grill, etc..
I've seen that kind of front end. Pretty neat.
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I hope I have described the windows adequately. Very much appreciate any information, as I have found nothing so far. Thanks Ray~
It most likely has a 225 CID Slant Six. A relatively low geared Differential. An automatic Transmission. And if given lots of tender loving care, would be a GREAT project vehicle.
How accessible is the vehicle. Can you get a peek at the Engine.
If it has been sitting for any appreciable amount of time, it will most likely need a new Fuel Pump, as the diaphragms get brittle and though they will work for a while usually fail in about a half an hour of running. I've had THAT happen with Lorrie twice.
Also, if it has anti-freeze in the Radiator, and if it is, in fact, a 225 Slant Six, the aluminum Water Pump will be fritzed. Lorrie's Water Pump had some type of chemical reaction take place and filled up with a kind of "goop", and needed replacing. Fortuantely, the Water Pump is not expensive, and is relatively easy to replace.
Also, most likely, the Carburetor will need an Accelerator Pump diaphragm.
If the engine is a 225 Slant Six, and if the Carburetor is a Holley 1920, and if you decide to rebuild it, DON'T leave it in the Carburetor Cleaner for any appreciable amount of time as products such as Berryman's will eat it up. Had THAT happen to Lorries Holley 1920.
You'll also have to probably replace the rubber Hoses on the Engine and the Braking System. The Engine hoses are nominally priced, and I don't yet know about the Brake System Hoses, but will soon know that, as I am in the process right now of refurbishing Lorrie's Brake System.
Find out what you can about the Engine. You don't have to have access to the inside to do this. It can be done by getting UNDER the front end of the vehicle and seeing what it is. The Slant Six is a distinctive and wonderful engine. If treated properly, will last almost forever.
Further information that I have gotten is that the engine & transmission have been rebuilt, and that it is a model P300 (which I see had a recall). Have yet to see inside the thing, and am hoping the guy who owns it will see that I put a note on the windshield, and will get back to me. If things work out, it may be my drive around vehicle, as it has room for anything I might have need for, its interesting looking, and its older and tougher.
Hey Ray,
It was all pretty general gathered from thirty-five years of having had Lorrie Van Haul.
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Further information that I have gotten is that the engine & transmission have been rebuilt,
Which CAN'T be bad.
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and that it is a model P300 (which I see had a recall).
But the recall thing is no big deal. Usually these old "surviving" vans are pretty "pure" vehicles. Most anything that goes wrong with them can be remedied, if not the "factory" way, then with a little "hot-rod" ingenuity.
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Have yet to see inside the thing,
Can't see through the windows?
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and am hoping the guy who owns it will see that I put a note on the windshield, and will get back to me.
Good way to start.
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If things work out, it may be my drive around vehicle, as it has room for anything I might have need for,
What tonnage is it?
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its interesting looking, and its older and tougher.
AND being a 1967 model, it doesn't have all the computerized PITA stuff on it.
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I imagine its a gasoline engine, yes? Ray~
Most likely! What I meant is: Is it for sure a 225 Slant Six? It could maybe be a 318 V-8.
I'm in the middle of rebuilding the entire Brake System on Lorrie. Got the Master Cylinder uninstalled, only to find that the Pistons are stuck in the Cylinder Bore, and I'm having to find a way to get them out.
Have thought of a couple of ways to make it to where there's a "handle" on the them of which to get a hold, and had one other suggestion of installing a Zerk on the front Pressure Port and using the pressure of a grease gun to
push them out. Since it will be rebuilt (if I can get it apart) it is going to get a good soaking in Berryman's Carburetor Dip to see if THAT will get rid of the sludge left in it from the Silicone Brake Fluid that unfortunately got put into it when the Braking System was last messed with back in 1986.
It appears that you and I are the only ones reading AND responding here on the Dodge Forum.
I noticed that all the animated advertisements (which take a long time to load) get loaded before any of the messages, AND that in many instances they reset the ISP Server here a number of times in the process. What's THAT all about, I wonder?
Anyway, keep the progress on the P300 updated. I'll do the same with Lorrie P200!
Actually I can see inside a bit. Quite rough, as is the outside, but nothing more that I would expect for the age (no seeping puddles of blood from the back, etc.).
I lack a bit of the hot-rod ingenuity that you speak of. I understand the basics of automobiles/trucks, etc., but lack a great deal of practical experience, which is one of the reasons I like the idea of something older (older = more straight forward). I would guess, somewhere in the range of 1 ton, though I don't know that I have the experience to judge that accurately.
I imagine that the most traffic & interest here in the forums is in muscle cars & modified street rods, but I could be wrong. Its just more practical, and certainly more interesting to me, as a vehicle.
So far as the ads, that is of course where the money is in public forums. Are you on a dial-up connection and timing out? There is a Firefox add-on, called Ad Block Plus, which will do away with a lot of that clutter & hassle for you. http://adblockplus.org/en/
In different light, and another look, I think I make out that the guy wants $1,600 for the beast. Hopefully he will contact me, and give me some more solid information, as I can probably swing that, depending on other factors.
Thanks for the interest & information. Hopefully I will have more information soon. I just thought that I could at least take a picture of the thing to post. Will try to do that, ASAP.
JC, Actually I can see inside a bit. Quite rough, as is the outside, but nothing more that I would expect for the age (no seeping puddles of blood from the back, etc.).
Hey Ray,
Roughness inside and out is of little consequence. The interior and ceiling walls can easily be insulated and paneled (which is what I'm hoping to do with Lorrie) which will cut down on lots of noise. Plan to use CelloTex Insulation (foam Polystyrene with Aluminum Foil on both sides). Don't know what kind of material for the paneling, but it should be very light weight.
The floor can be given a coat of Hurculiner Bed Liner (which I've already done with Ms. American and will do to Lorrie), the kit to do it with is available from AutoZone for $99.99 + tax, and is REALLY spiffy. Then will probably install a all weather carpet, or maybe not.
Any Rusted out panels can be sanded and then Ospho-ed (Phosphorotic Acid) which turns Iron Oxide (rust) to Iron Phosphate (which is harder than Sapphire, and won't re-rust). Then, since all the panels are FLAT, or if there are curves, they are not compound curves, flat sheet Aluminum adhered to the rusted out spots with an epoxy or caulk-like material (to keep out moisture), and pop-riveted around the edges, comes out looking VERY industrial. I've done the painting on Lorrie with a brush and Ronan Bulletin (sign painter's) Paint. Isn't exactly Chip Foose, but IS very durable and easy to do.
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I lack a bit of the hot-rod ingenuity that you speak of.
I find that THAT'S the most fun part of doing this. I know there are those who are strict traditionalists and think that the way "it's always been done" is the ONLY way to do things, but that kind of "rigid" thinking is mostly for the super-conservative types who are wanting 100 Point Restorations. A Dodge Mail or Delivery Van does not require strict restoration methods.
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I understand the basics of automobiles/trucks, etc., but lack a great deal of practical experience, which is one of the reasons I like the idea of something older (older = more straight forward).
EXACTLY!
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I would guess, somewhere in the range of 1 ton, though I don't know that I have the experience to judge that accurately.
I don't know for sure, but I think that Lorrie is a 3/4 ton.
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I imagine that the most traffic & interest here in the forums is in muscle cars & modified street rods, but I could be wrong.
Those are the most glamourous. These Vans are more industrial and "practical" is the word you will use in the the next quote.
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It's just more practical, and certainly more interesting to me, as a vehicle.
Not to mention UTILITARIAN. I mean, these Vans can actually DO something, and if one has not gone to just gobs of detail to make it "pretty", one doesn't have to worry about nicking or scratching something.
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So far as the ads, that is of course where the money is in public forums. Are you on a dial-up connection and timing out?
YES!
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There is a Firefox add-on, called Ad Block Plus, which will do away with a lot of that clutter & hassle for you. http://adblockplus.org/en/
Hey... Thanks. I think I need this.
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In different light, and another look, I think I make out that the guy wants $1,600 for the beast.
That COULD be negociable. A supply of $100.00 bills can be quite persuasive. Lorrie was originally priced at $1,100.00. But I showed the guy the ONLY seven $100.00 bills that I had, and he just pulled out his receipt book.
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Hopefully he will contact me, and give me some more solid information, as I can probably swing that, depending on other factors.
At that price, it should have a V-8 in it. Though to me, THAT is not an advantage. I REALLY like the 225 Slant Six. Probably the most durable engine ever built. Looks good, easy to work on, isn't any kind of power-house, but what it lacks in ummph, it more than makes up for in endurance.
Besides, these big FLAT fronted vehicles are NOT for racing, or high speed anyway.
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Thanks for the interest & information. Hopefully I will have more information soon. I just thought that I could at least take a picture of the thing to post. Will try to do that, ASAP.
Would love to see it.
Did you look at the Lorrie Van Haul Web Site?
I'd be out messing with her today if it were not raining. Supposed to continue today and tomorrow, so Wednesday is the next opportunity to do anything.
I got the Master Brake Cylinder out of Lorrie Van Haul. The Piston is stuck
in the Cylinder Bore. I'm afraid that the unit is un-repairable. Won't
actually know until I take it to a Brake Shop and see if they can get the
Piston out, or if they will say that it is toast. Would do that today,
except as was mentioned, it is raining, and raining, and is supposed to continue till late tomorrow.
I'm going to get two more Jack Stands (already have two), and get Lorrie
solidly sitting on Jack Stands, and then take off the wheels.
I've got to find someone who does sand blasting to blast the wheels and
inspect them to see if they are salvagable. If they are, I'll repaint them.
If they aren't, I'll get stock rims instead of these "Wagon Wheels".
Will then remove the brake drums and the mechanisms, and then the Wheel
Cylinders, which are also probably going to have to be replaced. I've done
Brakes before, and have all the proper tools with which to do them. Plus I
have a really good Instruction Manual for directions. Hydraulics do not
scare me. I learned about them while working for the Crane Company. Will
probably also replace the Flexible Brake Hoses.
Also, the Right Rear Axle leaks. It needs a new Seal. I did that to Ms.
American some time ago. I think I can do it to Lorrie.
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Thanks again, and best regards! Ray~
Keep coming with the updates. You and I appear to be what might be a "nucleus" of an upsurge in Dodge Van interest. I'm still working on Ms. American 3.14159, the ONLY 1964 Ford Galaxie 500, Fou-Door, Hard-Top, Fast-Back, Police Interceptor that Google finds on the WHOLE World Wide Web. But she is NOW back on the road, and Lorrie has become the focus of my efforts NOW.
Hope this finds YOU doing well, and hanging in there.
No new developments with the van. I am going to go look & take some pictures in a little bit, maybe he will have at least updated his sign & contact information, as I have heard nothing from him.
This is just a quick note to LYK I am still here, and will hopefully have something to offer, soon.
JC, No new developments with the van. I am going to go look & take some pictures in a little bit, maybe he will have at least updated his sign & contact information, as I have heard nothing from him.
Hey Ray,
Alright.
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This is just a quick note to LYK I am still here, and will hopefully have something to offer, soon. R~
Alright. We seem to be the only ones here!
Was into Livingston today to get Lorrie Van Haul's NEW Master Cylinder from Auto Zone. It was supposed to be in at noon. It wasn't. It was supposed to be in at 3:00 p.m. It wasn't. They are blaming FedEx.
It's supposed to rain here tomorrow and Friday. Will not get out till next Saturday. Will hopefully pick it up then.
In the meantime, am going to try to get Lorrie moved back about 1.5 truck lengths, and then get her up on Jack Stands to be able to remove the Brake Assemblies, and get the Wheel Cylinders off.
Also will be cleaning all the stuff out of her and may start removing the paint from her floor with Wire Brush Wheels in preparation for a Herculiner Bed Liner application.
Things are moving along at a bewilderingly leisurely pace!
Here is a link to album of some of the pictures I took of the P300. I like the idea of driving & having something different, but am afraid of taking on another project.
Here is a link to album of some of the pictures I took of the P300.
Hey Ray, THAT IS SO COOL!
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I like the idea of driving & having something different, but am afraid of taking on another project.
It's all going to depend on how much work it's going to take to get it serviceable. I mean, IF it is just going to take maybe fluids, a battery, maybe tires, check the brakes, some tuning adjustments, and etc., to make it drivable, then doing stuff to it can be done leisurely even while it is in use.
It looks like a pretty tight unit already. And it is definitely not your average van!
What actually NEEDS to happen NOW is for you to get with the owner/seller, and find out what condition it is actually in, what engine, what transmission, and stuff like that. Wouldn't surprise me one bit to find that it's a 318 V8.
None-the-less, I LIKE IT! It'd be a wonderful companion, like my Lorrie Van Haul.
I'm in FULL ATTACK MODE on Lorrie's resurrection. I've got the funds all allocated, and the only thing holding things up is getting the parts in a timely manner, AND the weather.
Auto Zone was supposed to have the Master Cylinder in yesterday at noon, and at 3:00 p.m. it still hadn't arrived. Not that I need it immediately though.
But the weather is trying to rain. So I've got a bit of strategic scheduling of stuff done. Got some Wire Brush Wheels for my drill and once Lorrie is cleaned out of all the stuff that got stored in her for want of a better place, I can work INSIDE her whether or not it's raining. Can be stripping the paint off the floor in preparation for putting in a Hurculiner Bed Liner kit on the floor.
Weather is supposed to clear Saturday and Sunday. We'll see.
1967 Dodge delivery van?
