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Old 01-10-2008, 07:43 PM
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Does anyone have any idea's why my cummins starts hard occasionaly? Today it did it twice. And what I mean by hard starting is that if it sets for a little bit, say 5-10 minutes it seems, when I try to start it it will crank and crank to the point to where you want to stop cranking and try it again, but then all of a sudden it just takes off. NO Codes or anything other than the P0514 code, which is nothing apperently. No check engine lights or anything of that nature. Any ideas out there. less than 1000 miles on new injectors. Thanks
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Old 01-10-2008, 08:12 PM
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Fuel Filter? Mine gets a little harder to start when its time for new fuel filter.
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Old 01-10-2008, 08:13 PM
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I had that problem a wile back the dealer had me put fuel additive it the tank and it went away. now I add it every other tank
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Old 01-10-2008, 08:25 PM
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P0514 is for Battery Temperature Sensor Circuit Range/Performance.

Just FYI.
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:28 PM
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I've had that problem since I got it... dealer has no clue I've never triped a code either...

It justs turns over and over I won't hold for but about ten seconds

if it doesn't start right away like normal I've found aquick tap to the go pedal usually gets it goin....

Only happens randomly sometime 2-3 times in a night or mabye weeks apart...never does it on a cold start though only when its been off for less than say an hour or before cooled off...

I just live around it, it runs fine once it starts and always starts just takes a few turns sometimes...
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:32 PM
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BTW my uncle has the same truck and had this problem and finally found out his battery that goes to the starter was bad and it was trying to pull current from the other battery, he changed um both and never had a problem...

I checked mine and both are good though, wierd deal

Haven't had a hard start for a good month now though...since its cooled off outside
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:35 PM
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Mr. Inferno and Aero are both of your trucks 6 speeds? Cause mine is and it does it sometimes too. There was a couple threads about it on several forums I visit. IIRC there is a flash out to fix the problem. There were one or two before it that didn't work, then the last one they came out with supposedly worked. This flash only pertains to 6 speeds though. I have not had it done because mine tows great and gets better than average mileage and I don't want to chance any of that changing.
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:58 PM
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Thanks I'll Check DC For an update didn't think of that....
But I got an Auto...so who knows
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:51 PM
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my 06 did the same thing when i bought it with 17000 miles on the clock. I couldn't stand it cuz people would look at me like i was driving an old clunker cuz it would crank and crank. I finally saw that there was a TSB on it so i took it to the dealership and they reflashed the computer with new updates and it hasn't done it since! I've got almost 30000 miles on it now and it's never done it once. I suggest talking to your dealer and seeing if they can do the same thing. Worked great and didn't cost me a dime.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:26 AM
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my 06 did the same thing when i bought it with 17000 miles on the clock. I couldn't stand it cuz people would look at me like i was driving an old clunker cuz it would crank and crank. I finally saw that there was a TSB on it so i took it to the dealership and they reflashed the computer with new updates and it hasn't done it since! I've got almost 30000 miles on it now and it's never done it once. I suggest talking to your dealer and seeing if they can do the same thing. Worked great and didn't cost me a dime.
YES! I did the same thing... I was apprehensive at first but then I made a buddy at a Chrysler store and heflashed the ECM via warranty and it has not had exessive crank time since.
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Old 01-11-2008, 08:32 AM
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my 06 did the same thing when i bought it with 17000 miles on the clock. I couldn't stand it cuz people would look at me like i was driving an old clunker cuz it would crank and crank.
Haha I had the same kinda thing first date with this chick I pick her up in what was a brand new truck to me 06 with 15k and then it takes 4 tries to get it to start ....
She was like WTF?!
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TSB # 18-022-07 will fix the p0514 code.
Flash: 5.9L Turbo-Diesel Engine System Enhancements
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves selectively erasing and reprogramming the Engine Control Module
(ECM) with new software.
MODELS:
2003 - 2005 (DR / DH) Ram Truck
NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles equipped with a 5.9L turbo diesel engine
Hope this helps......
(sales codes ETC and ETH respectively).
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
The following enhancements are included with this software:
1. Improved engine cooling (radiator fan activation) and prevention of possible engine
overheat. When coolant temperature faults are present the radiator fan is enabled
(turned on) during vehicle operation.
2. Correction to oil pressure reading when engine is operating at higher engine
temperatures above 91°C (195°F).
3. Improvement to the Temperature Sensor Rationality Test to prevent possible false test
failures and the following related Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC's):
a. DTC P0071 - Inlet Air Temperature Sensor Rationality.
b. DTC P0111 - Intake Air Temperature (IAT) Sensor Rationality.
c. DTC P0514 - Battery Temperature Sensor Rationality.
4. Additional Water-In-Fuel (WIF) warning added to indicate that the operator has had a
WIF DTC P2269 and has continued to operate (drive) the vehicle in excess of 500
miles without draining the water from the fuel filter. The following is the new WIF DTC
that has been added:
a. DTC P0169 - WIF Too Long Error
NUMBER:
18-022-07
GROUP:
Vehicle Performance
DATE:
March 14, 2007
5. ** Improvement to the Fuel Pressure Rationality Test to prevent possible false test
failures and the following related Diagnostic Trouble Code:
a. DTC P0191 - Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor Circuit Performance (2004.5 to 2005 M.Y.
vehicles). **
And on 2005/2006 TSB 18-003-06 addresses a long crank...
SUBJECT:
Flash: Long Crank When Starting And/Or Transmission Shift And Battery Charging
Enhancements
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves selectively erasing and reprogramming the Powertrain Control
Module (PCM - Cummins) with new software.
MODELS:
2005 - 2006 (DH/D1) Ram Truck (Heavy Duty)
NOTE: ** This bulletin applies to vehicles equipped with a 5.9L turbo-diesel engine
(sales code ETH) built on or after January 01, 2005 (MDH 0101XX).
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