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Old 01-15-2008, 10:19 AM
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Default Question about Biodiesel

So, per a discussion in off topic, I was curious as to how many of our members have experience with biodiesel. We have such a huge diesel crowd, im curious as to how many people have dealt with it.

I will admit that I dont know much about it, although Ive seen it produced on television. Is there any noticable difference in performance when running biodiesel?

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Default RE: Question about Biodiesel

If I recall reading another post in the Cummins section Dodge can void your warranty if they determine you are using BioDiesel.
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did they give the grounds for cancellation? i would think that in the refining system that i saw, there would be some bi-product of the cooking process that may end up passing through the fuel system.
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Default RE: Question about Biodiesel

Cummins has certified the engine to run on B5. . .I know guy's on other forums that run B99-b100 all the time.

the main reason why the B5 certification is that Bio fuels dont undergo the same evaluations and restrictions that normal fuels are. so the cetane, lubricative properties, and BTU factors can swing wildly.

have I run it. . .no I havent, but I would if it were more prevelant in my area.
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I've used bio in mixes from 10% to b99 with no problems. It runs a bit quieter, has a little less power and gets 1+ mpg worse mileage. It does smell pretty good though.
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did they give the grounds for cancellation? i would think that in the refining system that i saw, there would be some bi-product of the cooking process that may end up passing through the fuel system.
This is the post I was referring to, it has since grown and is even out of date given some more recent posts. I was interested in making my owna little over a year ago which brought me to that post. Of course Iwould have needed to buy a Diesel for my daily driver. But in the end I said screw it. It is to easy to pay the pump, of course I may change my mind someday

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It's hard to get without over paying for it where I live. When I have found it, I do run it. No noticeable difference. I don't' see any power loss OR decrease in milage. It may have been my imagination, but I swear I had an increase in milage. I didn't do any numbers, so I have no proof of anything. If anyone has any leads on reasonably priced Bio-Diesel - please feel free to drop me a line.
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I've been running B20 in my truck since August of last year. It runs better than petro diesel, I don't have to add any additives to the fuel because it has better lubricating properties, it cost 10 cents less a gallon and 20% of the money I spend on fuel now stays inside the US, instead of foreign countries and greedy oil company pockets.
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I have ran straight waste vegetable oil in my truck. The only problem I have encountered was the weather too cold and I blended too much. I am going to start again when the weather warms up. I need to work on a pump system of some sort as I am going to get some drums tomorrow for storage. When I was running thewvo I had no noticable difference in power or mileage. I would like to get a 2nd tank and do this the way people say it has to be done. but I think after summer time I might be able to have the budget for that if all goes well. until then I will just get it and poor it in, again once the weather is right.
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I have run B100 in my truck alot but when its prety cold outside, it has a tad of problem starting up but when its plugged it, its starts up just fine. A friend of mine, his dad runs straight vega oil in his all year long but its like a 96 too.
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I've never run it in my Ram. I'd be interrested in running it in something other than my daily driver. Right now it seems a little tooproblematic, or at least have the potential to be.
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I bought a Ford Escort 1600 diesel in England (UK)for forty pounds ($80) when I was out of work. It help that I could go for job interviews. Because diesel in England was one pound per litre ( $7.20 gallon) and unemployment was fifty pounds per week I had to be thrifty. I found a bloke who had a burger van and left all his oil for the bin men. I filtered it through a J cloth and put it into the Escort fuel tank. I got it up to about 60/40 (used veg oil/diesel) before it was too thick to go through the pump. The carsmelled like a mobile fish and chip shop ! Later I mixed the filteredoil with custic soda etc, this thins the oil to a diesel strengh. It ran fine for two years, I got a job and sold the car for fifty pounds ! Two things I will mention,veggie oil cleans everything, fuel tank, fuel lines and throws it into your fuel filter. I always carry a spare and change every oil change. Second, veggie oil will affect any rubber it comes into contact with, my Escort started to weep around the injectors, the price I paid for the car I didn`t care. My car had a Lucas fuel pump which needs lube from the diesel, veg oil would affect that although in two years of bunging veg oil through it, nothing happened ? The Bosch pump for the Escort is sealed so was not affected, shame mine had the Lucas. I think I got a little less mpg but being poor I never thrashed and still got 50mpg.
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i run straight vegtable oil in mine and start/ stop with homemade diesel (bio-diesel) i have not had any problems except paying $3.49 a gallon when i was away from the house...
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How many miles have you done running on straight veg oil ? When I put it in my 1986 Ford Escort 1.6 It would stop after more than a 60/40 mix (veg oil/diesel), I could drive at about 30mph if I had to get somewhere. Also newer vehicals have modified rubber/plastic in the fuel pipe connections etc. This should stop leaking caused by veg oil.
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Also newer vehicals have modified rubber/plastic in the fuel pipe connections etc. This should stop leaking caused by veg oil.
Rubber parts in the fuel line should not be an issue on any vehicle made after 1996. They were required in the US after 1996 to use vitron instead of rubber so that they would be compatible with alcohol blended fuels.
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How many miles have you done running on straight veg oil ? When I put it in my 1986 Ford Escort 1.6 It would stop after more than a 60/40 mix (veg oil/diesel), I could drive at about 30mph if I had to get somewhere. Also newer vehicals have modified rubber/plastic in the fuel pipe connections etc. This should stop leaking caused by veg oil.
i get a little better on the hi-way around 30 (give or take) on stock injectors... i just finnished putting 75 hp injectors in so i still have to figure that mpg out

the city was about the same as pump diesel.. i guess i need to keep my foot out of the pedal and see what that mpg is

as cowboy bob said about the rubber i dont have any leaks and havent had any in the past except once when i didnt tighten my fuel filter all the way..... oops!!
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i have been seriously doing some research on bio-diesel and i am about to start making my own processor.
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Good luck with that. I am doing alright with the wvo and pump mixed now that I am gaining experience.
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i have been seriously doing some research on bio-diesel and i am about to start making my own processor.
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I'd find your oil source first. It is near impossible these days to find anyone that will let you have their WVO. Luckily I did not waste money and build my processor 2 years ago. I have been searching about that long for a source of waste oil.
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The source for my filtered wvo jsut raised his price from $1.50 to $2.00 per gallon. I think this will be the end of wvo in Diablo unless I can find my own source. I have a little more then 120 mile round trip to pick it up. more fuel filters and harder start ups. I would have to buy a huge bulk to make up for it at the new price, it was only slightly beneficial before.
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