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Old 12-03-2010, 06:52 PM
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Default How To: Fix some bad surface rust on the roof rain gutters

Advanced Auto sells the Purple Power De-Ruster in 1-quart liquid bottles or in a 1-gallon jug. It was recommened to me on the vintage-vans.forumotionDOTcom website.

The next step was to get a three pack of tooth brushes, some wash cloths and painter's foam brushes for a $1 at the dollar store.

AutoZone sells the Rust-oleum Truck Bed Coating in a 1-quart size. The guy at the counter mentioned that this brand does two things, it stops rust and has less of the "burrly" (textured) look and feels of the major truck coating brand that they sell.

The project had to be thought out first. This De-Ruster can strip paint too! So, with that said, any slits in the rain gutter at those rear clip/clamp joint will allow the solution to leak through and strip your paint. My van already has rusty paths from these joints andways. I had to use some basic plumber's putty to hold it over for the work and later to remove it for painting.

My van rain gutters did not break through the metal. So, the following steps are more of preventive or just got to it in time before things got seriously worse.

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1. Wash the roof and rain gutters very well on a sunny warm day.

2. Inspect the rain gutter all around the roof for slits or seam leaks. If found, temporay patch them with plumber's putty. At the front of the van plumber's putty up the open end rain gutter on the A-pillar for both sides.

3. If your van is newer, either cover with painter's tape or remove the third cyclopse brake light assembly. I taped mine really good. Later I'll have to treat the rain gutter lip just under this brake light.
4. While on a latter at the rear of the van passenger side of the rain gutter, carefully pour the contents of the Purple Power De-Ruster into the rain gutter. If you have the 1-gallon jug, get a smaller container to pour with. Pour slowly as the rain gutter will fill up and star rolling to the front of the van. (NOTE: check with a level if the van is slighly lower to the front.) It will take about 1/4 cup or less to fill the side. BUT, do NOT overfill.

5. With careful movements, use the tooth brush and scrub the pitted surface rust inside the rain gutter to the roof of the van from front to back. Repeat a few times if the rust is a few layers on the surface.

6. Let the Purple Power De-Ruster sit in the rain gutter for about 30-45mins. The rust will convert to nearly pure white or to the primer color that is under the paint.

7. As the Purple Power De-Ruster evaporates a little and the rust converts away, you can start to mop up the Purple Power De-Ruster very carefully with the small wash cloths. Just have a good throw away plastic bin handy to toss these wash cloths out. FYI - Purple Power De-Ruster will eat holes in concrete.

Once the Purple Power De-Ruster is mopped up and the rust is converted, you are now ready to prep the rain gutter area for painting.
8. Shake the Rust-oleum Truck Bed Coating can a little while. More is better.

9. Using painter's tape and a ruler, mark-off from the rain gutter lip towards the roof 1-inch. Start and apply the painter's tape at arm's lengths pieces and 1-inch from the rain gutter lip to the roof surface.

10. Tape off the under area of the rain gutter. That is, the verticle vehicle side body panels and leave the rain gutter under side ready for painting.

11. Shake the Rust-oleum Truck Bed Coating can a little while. More is better.
12. Open the Rust-oleum Truck Bed Coating can, climb the ladder, and use a thin and narrow foam brush to coat the inside of the rain gutter. Paint the rain gutter trough first about an arms length and then up the roof to complete that one inch mentioned earlier.

13. Paint the rain gutter lip.
14. Paint the rain gutter under side.

15. Allow two hours for proper drying.
16. Carefully peel the painter's tape back













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Great writeup. This I will do as parts of mine are down to the primer. Though with my white cargo van I am debating on finding the coating in white or give it a new black strip up there.
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Great writeup. This I will do as parts of mine are down to the primer. Though with my white cargo van I am debating on finding the coating in white or give it a new black strip up there.
Well, a new black strip would set the van apart from others.

Here's a few that would be fine with an upper black strip on the roof.

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Yes, finding a white type of coating would be best. I wonder if there is something in the RV or Marine markets that would be white and do the same job?
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I've been battling my roof gutter rust since 2001 and losing. My most recent battle ended with my using a rust encapsulating paint.

Every other time, when I'd remove the loose rust, treat with converter, and paint over with Rustoleum spray paint, within a couple days I could see some areas where the rust was bleeding through again.

I'm at about a month since the last battle ended, and a couple rainstorms, yet I see no areas that the rust has bled through the paint, yet.

I used a product called Zerorust that my friend gave me, but I hear Rustbullet is the mac daddy of rust encapsulating paints.

http://www.rustbullet.com/articles/p...-from-rust.asp
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I think a black stripe would be better on a white van unless you plan on repainting the whole van. Different shades of white definitely show and it doesn't look good.
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I used a product called Zerorust that my friend gave me,

That is why I went with the Purple Power and bed-liner coating to paint on. The Vintage-Van site and the Ford Van site both recommended this as the best route to go after much searching.

Rustoleum's Appliance Epoxy comes in many colors. It may be an alternative to use. That's what the Ford Econoline van guys are using too.
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I think a black stripe would be better on a white van unless you plan on repainting the whole van. Different shades of white definitely show and it doesn't look good.
True. The more I have looked and though about it I will buy the black for the rain gutter.

On mine I just buy white spray can from Wally world and keep it touched up. There is a slight difference but not enough for a concern since this is my work van.
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I will be using ZeroRust also. It comes in different colors.
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I used zerorust white. It is not very white in comparison to the multitude of other white paints I've used over the years. 1/4 the way to beige. Just a FYI
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