1997 Dodge B2500 Starts, sometimes Stalls in the first mile
#1
1997 Dodge B2500 Starts, sometimes Stalls in the first mile
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I own a 1997 Dodge B2500. Recently it has taken to starting and sometimes stalling within the first mile of driving. For instance, I can start it...drive it a mile down the road to the red light and stop. It sometimes stalls at this point. If it does stall, I simply have to wait 20 minutes and then it'll start right back up and go. If it doesn't stall, I'm good to go wherever I need to from that point on.
While we were troubleshooting this problem, it so happened that it stalled while shifting gears for a few times. It also is easier to start in neutral more often than not.
We've thought of just about everything we can think of to fix the problem. The one thing we haven't done is bought relays (starter relay, etc.) in that front fuse box under the hood.
Suggestions? Thanks in advance!
I own a 1997 Dodge B2500. Recently it has taken to starting and sometimes stalling within the first mile of driving. For instance, I can start it...drive it a mile down the road to the red light and stop. It sometimes stalls at this point. If it does stall, I simply have to wait 20 minutes and then it'll start right back up and go. If it doesn't stall, I'm good to go wherever I need to from that point on.
While we were troubleshooting this problem, it so happened that it stalled while shifting gears for a few times. It also is easier to start in neutral more often than not.
We've thought of just about everything we can think of to fix the problem. The one thing we haven't done is bought relays (starter relay, etc.) in that front fuse box under the hood.
Suggestions? Thanks in advance!
#3
IMO, and I did this to an extend with my van...When you don't know the history of the van - and it is over 100k miles I would replace (with good quality components:
1. CPS
2. Coil.
3. Plugs
4. Wires
5. Dist. Rotor
6. Pick up coil in distributor
7. Clean and/or replace the IAC
8. O2 sensors (Denso or NTK Only)
9. MAP sensor
10. TPS
11. Check for vacuum leaks - esp. look down the throttle body and see if there is any oil in the intake, if there is you have a bad belly pan gasket.
These 11 things above are the standard issues with our vans. Lastly, if you have an engine issue and you have done all of the above, usually the PCM is at fault at that time. Or maybe cracked heads (rare but not uncommon).
Other than the labor involved concerning the belly pan, everything above is relatively cheap, easy to do by yourself and most of these parts should be replaced every 100-150k miles anyways. Many of these parts get the 'gremlins' after awhile and no scanner will tell you that the sensor is bad unless you have a real $2-5k dollar scanner or a DRB tool that can do freeze frame, real time data.
If you don't do the due diligence above, you will end up on wild goose chases or you may get lucky, but the fore mentioned is usually the way it goes.
Good luck.
EDIT: the fuel pumps in these van get finicky at their EOL. I forgot to add that to the list too
Last edited by funair02; 04-05-2016 at 11:05 AM.
#4
Hubbs said it's a 3.9L V6. It all started with the computer going out. We replaced that, dis cap, coil, roter, etc.
For some reason, Hubbs decided the other day it was bad wires (Son said the plugs looked good). New wires were put on it. She still gave us trouble for two more days (clearing codes, maybe the engine didn't realize it had more new parts, lol). Hubbs said this morning she's running really well. She's getting driven around town right now as a test.
So, we'll see how it goes from here. Hopefully, totally great! lol
For some reason, Hubbs decided the other day it was bad wires (Son said the plugs looked good). New wires were put on it. She still gave us trouble for two more days (clearing codes, maybe the engine didn't realize it had more new parts, lol). Hubbs said this morning she's running really well. She's getting driven around town right now as a test.
So, we'll see how it goes from here. Hopefully, totally great! lol
#5
drive it a mile down the road to the red light and stop. It sometimes stalls at this point. If it does stall, I simply have to wait 20 minutes and then it'll start right back up and go.
http://dodgeram.info/Engine-Gas/OBDI/pcm_fault_code.htm
#6
I am saying it would crank, but if it didn't start immediately or stalled within the first mile, it wouldn't start again unless I let it sit for 20 minutes. Then, after 20 minutes, it would crank right up and drive.
We've had various codes, some of which said misfire in a cylinder (would change which cylinder each time actually). I can't remember what the other codes were.
The boys just got back with my van and said she behaved well all day. I've got my fingers crossed that we're good to go now. So many things have been replaced that it should be good for awhile. lol
We've had various codes, some of which said misfire in a cylinder (would change which cylinder each time actually). I can't remember what the other codes were.
The boys just got back with my van and said she behaved well all day. I've got my fingers crossed that we're good to go now. So many things have been replaced that it should be good for awhile. lol
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#8
Agreed...
IMO, and I did this to an extend with my van...When you don't know the history of the van - and it is over 100k miles I would replace (with good quality components:
1. CPS
2. Coil.
3. Plugs
4. Wires
5. Dist. Rotor
6. Pick up coil in distributor
7. Clean and/or replace the IAC
8. O2 sensors (Denso or NTK Only)
9. MAP sensor
10. TPS
11. Check for vacuum leaks - esp. look down the throttle body and see if there is any oil in the intake, if there is you have a bad belly pan gasket.
These 11 things above are the standard issues with our vans. Lastly, if you have an engine issue and you have done all of the above, usually the PCM is at fault at that time. Or maybe cracked heads (rare but not uncommon).
Other than the labor involved concerning the belly pan, everything above is relatively cheap, easy to do by yourself and most of these parts should be replaced every 100-150k miles anyways. Many of these parts get the 'gremlins' after awhile and no scanner will tell you that the sensor is bad unless you have a real $2-5k dollar scanner or a DRB tool that can do freeze frame, real time data.
If you don't do the due diligence above, you will end up on wild goose chases or you may get lucky, but the fore mentioned is usually the way it goes.
Good luck.
EDIT: the fuel pumps in these van get finicky at their EOL. I forgot to add that to the list too
IMO, and I did this to an extend with my van...When you don't know the history of the van - and it is over 100k miles I would replace (with good quality components:
1. CPS
2. Coil.
3. Plugs
4. Wires
5. Dist. Rotor
6. Pick up coil in distributor
7. Clean and/or replace the IAC
8. O2 sensors (Denso or NTK Only)
9. MAP sensor
10. TPS
11. Check for vacuum leaks - esp. look down the throttle body and see if there is any oil in the intake, if there is you have a bad belly pan gasket.
These 11 things above are the standard issues with our vans. Lastly, if you have an engine issue and you have done all of the above, usually the PCM is at fault at that time. Or maybe cracked heads (rare but not uncommon).
Other than the labor involved concerning the belly pan, everything above is relatively cheap, easy to do by yourself and most of these parts should be replaced every 100-150k miles anyways. Many of these parts get the 'gremlins' after awhile and no scanner will tell you that the sensor is bad unless you have a real $2-5k dollar scanner or a DRB tool that can do freeze frame, real time data.
If you don't do the due diligence above, you will end up on wild goose chases or you may get lucky, but the fore mentioned is usually the way it goes.
Good luck.
EDIT: the fuel pumps in these van get finicky at their EOL. I forgot to add that to the list too
What is the CPS??
Everything else on the list I knew what they were but this one.
Also my 1995 3.9 has 175K on the clock and have no idea what has or has not been done to her, other than what I can see that looks new or replaced. From what I read you're saying that I should replace all these items??
Thanks and sorry to hijack your thread.
Doc.
#9
Please hijack away Doc. lol I the the list is for consideration of what to replace. I've replaced lots of those things with no solution myself.
On the advice of a guy who saw me on the side of the road (again), I bought a temperature sensor (it's called a cooling sensor actually, near the thermostat). He said that solved his problem. While mine did need replacing, it didn't solve the problem.
I've kind of given up on the van and am looking to sell it for cheap and let someone else figure it out.
On the advice of a guy who saw me on the side of the road (again), I bought a temperature sensor (it's called a cooling sensor actually, near the thermostat). He said that solved his problem. While mine did need replacing, it didn't solve the problem.
I've kind of given up on the van and am looking to sell it for cheap and let someone else figure it out.
#10
Please hijack away Doc. lol I the the list is for consideration of what to replace. I've replaced lots of those things with no solution myself.
On the advice of a guy who saw me on the side of the road (again), I bought a temperature sensor (it's called a cooling sensor actually, near the thermostat). He said that solved his problem. While mine did need replacing, it didn't solve the problem.
I've kind of given up on the van and am looking to sell it for cheap and let someone else figure it out.
On the advice of a guy who saw me on the side of the road (again), I bought a temperature sensor (it's called a cooling sensor actually, near the thermostat). He said that solved his problem. While mine did need replacing, it didn't solve the problem.
I've kind of given up on the van and am looking to sell it for cheap and let someone else figure it out.
If this is a wiring issue then we know at some point we need to replace a part of or all of it. Sad that Dodge not learned from it mistakes and moved to having a bullet proof set of vehicles they now make. But I am going to guess that is not the case. I know all car MFG have there issues, but come on... Sorry for the rant, seems like everything these day is built like crap and no one cares anymore... Sad...