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Old 11-07-2009, 12:51 AM
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As far as racing goes... An auto will never do what a manual can do. You simply can't dip into the red line far enough to reach peak power and you do not have the control coming out of corners that you do with a manual.

Until you put in an incredible AI that can think like a human, autos will not be able to keep up.
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Old 11-07-2009, 01:32 AM
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well there goes another day of searching and failing anyone know of a dodge dakota 4.7 6 speed manual 4x4 for sale, or a 4.7/5.7hemi 1500/2500 4x4 not to picky about body colors or types, only that the dakota would have to be an extended cab NOT a crew cab.

I am getting to the point that I really want something soon, and I am willing to pay quite a bit and or drive quite a ways to get one. Had that hemi lined up but was just hours short hours not days hours.
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:17 AM
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Good luck. I'll keep my eyes open down here, and see what pops up.
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Okay so as a couple of you know I have been looking for a newer truck, round 2003-2008, say between $12-18k. Has anyone been looking for a truck recently and noticed how so many dealers just flat out blatantly put vehicles up on sites labled incorrectly.


I am so depressed. I was hours away from calling a dealer and making a deposit to hold the truck until I could get there to see it. It was a 2004 2500, hemi manual, and even had the only trusty form of 4 wheel shift, the manual on the floor shifter. But when I call them today. "Sorry we just sold that vehicle a few hours ago."
I hate it when the vehicles are put up wrong, but most people put them up quickly, or say they have things to attract people in a search.

And just so you know, your floor 4wd shifter is just as trusty as my little turn switch. Unless if you have front locking hubs, all shifters are electronic. The only difference is convenience. And the occasional person who thinks the floor shifters go straight through and aren't electric. So either look for locking front hubs, or else the 4wd shifter doesn't matter.
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^2004 Was the last year the ram had a true 4x4 shifter in it. Not computer controlled.

And, be careful there, the older rams were floor shifted.
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:23 PM
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And just so you know, your floor 4wd shifter is just as trusty as my little turn switch. Unless if you have front locking hubs, all shifters are electronic. The only difference is convenience. And the occasional person who thinks the floor shifters go straight through and aren't electric. So either look for locking front hubs, or else the 4wd shifter doesn't matter.
The previous mention was not meant to be attacking anyone, if you felt that way, the whole floor shifter is a personal thing ever since my dad had a 91 bronco with the electric push button 4 wheel, and it never locked in. It also had those damned banana looking plastic thing in it. Those would always break keepong the hubs from locking in.

It was my understanding that the floor shifter even on the newer ones were manual latch to the transfer case not electronic, I knew that the hubs were electronic, but not the transfer case right? The issue that I have with your little turn switch, was that at least on the fords, and the blazers, you have to go through a whole song and dance to actually get it in 4 wheel low, often with it still not going in there when you did exactly what the owners manual said. Where as on the floor shifters, I can actually feel the transfer case lock into 4 low.

Then there is the whole mercury mountaineer/ford explorer thing where the "actuators" (if that is indeed what they are called) would somehow get hung and lock the system in 4wd permanently, unless you wanted to spend about $400 to replace them.

But again, not meant to hurt anyones feelings, I just really like the jeep dad had, it had no hubs, but a front differential that locked when the shifter was placed in 4wd or lower. you could FEEL when it was in 4 wheel. You put it there You knew it was there. I really liked that as oppoed to the electronic version.

You have heard of the computer term PLUG AND PRAY, dad and I used to call the electronic ones PUSH AND PRAY.
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The previous mention was not meant to be attacking anyone, if you felt that way, the whole floor shifter is a personal thing ever since my dad had a 91 bronco with the electric push button 4 wheel, and it never locked in. It also had those damned banana looking plastic thing in it. Those would always break keepong the hubs from locking in.

It was my understanding that the floor shifter even on the newer ones were manual latch to the transfer case not electronic, I knew that the hubs were electronic, but not the transfer case right? The issue that I have with your little turn switch, was that at least on the fords, and the blazers, you have to go through a whole song and dance to actually get it in 4 wheel low, often with it still not going in there when you did exactly what the owners manual said. Where as on the floor shifters, I can actually feel the transfer case lock into 4 low.

Then there is the whole mercury mountaineer/ford explorer thing where the "actuators" (if that is indeed what they are called) would somehow get hung and lock the system in 4wd permanently, unless you wanted to spend about $400 to replace them.

But again, not meant to hurt anyones feelings, I just really like the jeep dad had, it had no hubs, but a front differential that locked when the shifter was placed in 4wd or lower. you could FEEL when it was in 4 wheel. You put it there You knew it was there. I really liked that as oppoed to the electronic version.

You have heard of the computer term PLUG AND PRAY, dad and I used to call the electronic ones PUSH AND PRAY.
One of my family members has a '95 Dodge with the floor shifter, and it is all electronic, it doesn't go directly to the transfer case.
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okay I am not calling you a liar, but due to the fact that the 1997 in our farm truck has a manual linkage, (I know this, because it slipped once and was unable to go into 4wheel low)
Either
A I need to throw the BS flag
OR
B He has a modified truck.

Just in case you doubt me any further, check this site.
http://dodgeram.org/tech/specs/tranfer_case.htm
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"The shift lever is connected to the transfer case range lever by an adjustable linkage rod"

Not electronic. I will give you this, the speedo sensor is electronic, and the hub/front axel locking system is vaccume accuated, but the transfer case itself, stock anyway, is manual via linkage.
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You need to throw the BS flag. Plain and simple. The 231 HD TC was not electronic. It had a vacuum system, and that was about as high tech as it got.
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yea, thats how my dads old 96 dak was set up with the linkage and vacum system
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