Auto workers protest outside show over Delphi demands

[X_Spearmint]

well I do think O'Reily is of relation to monkey poo, just not in the same way as you. FOX isn't news and O'Reily doesn't do interviews, he just tells his guests to shut up, it's quite sad.

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[nickoman01]

its awesome he puts those liberal bastards in there place, and i have found fox news is way more reliable then CNN.

[Midnight]

ORIGINAL: X_Spearmint

well I do think O'Reily is of relation to monkey poo, just not in the same way as you. FOX isn't news and O'Reily doesn't do interviews, he just tells his guests to shut up, it's quite sad.

I gotta agree with you...

[SHAPman]

ORIGINAL: nickoman01

yes thats true. they had a purpose, accomplished there goal, and now they are no longer necessary. it is a dead concept, there time is up, there purpose is already achieved. there are federal laws protecting workers rights now. no buddy using a stamping machine or screwing in parts deserve 27 dollars an hour. i have great respect for NWA for ignoring the union and those crazy ass aircraft mechanics who got 35 bucks an hour. no planes have gone down with the people who filled there position, therefore it is totally unnecessary to pay that much to workers because there is a union, when a non experienced person can do it just as well for 1/3 of the price. i mean come on any 18 year old high school drop out who love to work on a line making 10 bucks an hour.

this is not meant to offend anyone. you people work hard for your money, and i understand how they can be upset, but come on.

Yeah Nick people get "upset" when your asked to take a 60 percent paycut, but the top asses er I mean brass gets a 500 mill golden parachute for running a company into the drain. Yes people get "upset" when they face losing everything they own due to the incompetence and greed of corporate execs. If Chrysler did the same to me, I'd lose my house, and both of my cars. I would be financially ruined if i could not find another similar paying job. And guess what when you get out into the real world you will realize these high paying jobs are few and far between.

Sorry for "ruining" your auto show. Never mind these peoples LIVES are about to be destroyed. Its all about you. Get over yourself man.

Joe

[X_Spearmint]

ORIGINAL: nickoman01

its awesome he puts those liberal bastards in there place, and i have found fox news is way more reliable then CNN.

dude, what have you been smoking? the only thing fair and balanced on FOX is the level their carpenter uses. And it's not putting them in their place, it's him having no rebuttal and making himself look like a fool to all of us with an IQ.

[Daddywags]

Why do unions suck? I am not going to take a $17 an hour paycut and with no union you have no choice. I am in the UAW and they do a lot for us. Just because your union blows doesn't mean all of them do. It is the morons at the head level of Delphi's fault. They are the ones who broke away from GM and thought they could do it on their own and failed and now are trying to make the workers pay for it. I am sure the big wigs in Delphi aren't taking a pay cut. The unions are the only thing American workers have to give them bargaining power.

[97 3.5 Intrepid]

$27 an hour is too much for a simple task like that. Now I can understand that they are upset but they were riping off the company, so they sort of brought this on themselves. If they would have asked for a more reasonable wage in the first place, they probably wouldn't have had such a dramatic drop in pay. It is silly that people that have no college education get paid better than some with college educations.

As for FOX vs. CNN. CNN has done a lot of cheap shots lately such as the huge X over the V.P.'s face. That was no coincidence. FOX did a whole story about supporting "Golbal Warming" (a subject liberals believe in), FOX has more liberals (Alan Colmes, Geraldo Riviera, etc.) than CNN has conservatives, Special Report with Brit Hume has a combination of different conservatives and liberals from difference sources, O'Reilly is accused by conservatives as being a liberal and liberals accuse him of being conservative and he complains a lot about the President. Studies have shown that FOX actually has not made a very big impact on making people vote more Republican. Areas that did not offer FOX NEWS in the first four years grew just as much in support of Republicans as areas that did. FOX gets more professional people do the news than the others do. Alan Colmes is more credible than many of his fellow liberals in other outlets. He doesn't go off the deep in like others do.

[2coff]

ORIGINAL: nickoman01

yes thats true. they had a purpose, accomplished there goal, and now they are no longer necessary. it is a dead concept, there time is up, there purpose is already achieved. there are federal laws protecting workers rights now. no buddy using a stamping machine or screwing in parts deserve 27 dollars an hour. i have great respect for NWA for ignoring the union and those crazy ass aircraft mechanics who got 35 bucks an hour. no planes have gone down with the people who filled there position, therefore it is totally unnecessary to pay that much to workers because there is a union, when a non experienced person can do it just as well for 1/3 of the price. i mean come on any 18 year old high school drop out who love to work on a line making 10 bucks an hour.

this is not meant to offend anyone. you people work hard for your money, and i understand how they can be upset, but come on.

That explans alot. All the good job's in the U.S. are almost gone and you want to take more away. This will be a third world country before we know it with you additude.

[97 3.5 Intrepid]

ORIGINAL: 2coff

That explans alot. All the good job's in the U.S. are almost gone and you want to take more away. This will be a third world country before we know it with you additude.

The way people are living these days does not seem to support this mind set. The demand for Superior goods is continuing to increase. People continue to purchase newer and nicer homes, people continue to purchase more and more luxury items more and more often, the unemployment rate continues to lower, the stocks are still increasing dispite the high price of fuel and raising interest rates. The thing that is changing is that the jobs here in the U.S. are now requiring people to receive a higher education and these higher education jobs pay better many times, people are being more enterpruners and being self-employed (which normally means being better paid). There are benefits to us sending jobs overseas. These poorer countries get money and spend it on goods that the U.S. exports to them. If you look at the whole picture in economics and not listen to the constant fear tastics that the media and politicans sing and dance to, you would realize things are going great right now. The lower employee wages makes products less expensive to build which causes the prices to be less expensive. This helps increase the supply and demand, which helps the companies profits which leads to more employees being hired in the long run.

[highrevr/tflea]

Its funny how unions and corperations crash heads...I work for the heartland Frito lay and had two plants close down recently to give us the bulk of our northern and southern territory ...the coincidence is relevant to my theory. Being that both were union. And for some reason our plants show huge concern to individuals talking about unionizing the corperation. Unions can be a good thing and a very bad thing...while union officials take your dues to basically talk to your employer to give you more royalties and fair wages, they make money off of it too. But when they decide they have had enough they simply pull this stunt b/c heaven forbid that the CEOs and chairman take paycuts...they start from the bottom. (The Workers) Do I want to work for a UNION...Hell NO!!! B/C in financial Bliss you cant count on anybody but yourself. I understand them protesting but what they should be doing is going and educating the auto enthusiast masses who go to the show and give them an idea of how you think they should solve the problem. Not complain about it at an auto show b/c it is meant to be enjoyed as a glimpse into an automakers future. What would I think about GMs quality when I go to a show to see how they cut wages to be comparable to a White Castle's employee even if temporarily? Doesnt sound to good when you originally go to buy a GM and you think that the value will drop 20000 as soon as you leave the car lot. The asian market does hold a big majority of the US car sales but there are manufacturing facilities here in the US like toyota, SIA, and others that give US workers their jobs. So it isnt all bad. If they dont do something to fix the problem w/ overall reliability and sales ...I dont see very many jobs in their future. And I apologize as well to the recent decline in automotive sales as the economy was so bumpy for the past few years. 4 years ago the best I could do for a job was Hollywood video at 6 dollars an hour after the 2 layoffs i had in a row. Its sad.