Multiple Random Misfires (P0300)
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Multiple Random Misfires (P0300)
1997 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT Laramie, 4x4, 5.9L Magnum
Bought the truck for $1800 about two weeks ago. After putting a breather cap over an unnecessary opening in the passenger side valve cover (must be aftermarket opening for oil fill, but oil fill already present on driver side) and changing the oil and filter, I started getting misfire codes. I am assuming they were present when I bought it, and were just cleared since the idle was fairly rough when I drove it.
Anyway, here's the situation: The truck starts and drives perfectly fine, and there is no feeling of loss of power. The only symptoms are that it idles rough when rolling forward or in reverse (feels like the truck is bouncing) and the p0300 code accompanied by p0303, 4, and 5. Most recently it is now also shooting a code for cylinder 2. I also noticed that the oil pressure gauge starts to drop to the low end and sometimes illuminates the oil light when sitting at idle. This starts happening after driving for a bit, as the pressure is fine upon startup and for a little while after. As for performance, I don't feel like there is a noticeable loss of power, I do not believe I am burning oil at an alarming rate, but there MIGHT be some loss of efficiency, as a full tank has gotten me just over 200 miles (all city) and theres just under a quarter tank left. So all in all, my concerns lie with the misfire codes, oil pressure, and rough idle (not nearly as bad with brake applied or when in park).
Other threads have suggested I have a bad plenum gasket, but I just don't feel as though the symptoms add up to that, as I've not seen a misfire in C7 or C8, I don't appear to be burning too much oil, and I do not feel like I am losing power. The plugs and wires are all new (per seller), but I am about to pull them to make sure they aren't Bosch plugs (will update). I am not entirely familiar with Dodge or their trucks, so any input is welcomed and appreciated.
Update: Plugs are Champion Copper Plus (RC12YC)
Bought the truck for $1800 about two weeks ago. After putting a breather cap over an unnecessary opening in the passenger side valve cover (must be aftermarket opening for oil fill, but oil fill already present on driver side) and changing the oil and filter, I started getting misfire codes. I am assuming they were present when I bought it, and were just cleared since the idle was fairly rough when I drove it.
Anyway, here's the situation: The truck starts and drives perfectly fine, and there is no feeling of loss of power. The only symptoms are that it idles rough when rolling forward or in reverse (feels like the truck is bouncing) and the p0300 code accompanied by p0303, 4, and 5. Most recently it is now also shooting a code for cylinder 2. I also noticed that the oil pressure gauge starts to drop to the low end and sometimes illuminates the oil light when sitting at idle. This starts happening after driving for a bit, as the pressure is fine upon startup and for a little while after. As for performance, I don't feel like there is a noticeable loss of power, I do not believe I am burning oil at an alarming rate, but there MIGHT be some loss of efficiency, as a full tank has gotten me just over 200 miles (all city) and theres just under a quarter tank left. So all in all, my concerns lie with the misfire codes, oil pressure, and rough idle (not nearly as bad with brake applied or when in park).
Other threads have suggested I have a bad plenum gasket, but I just don't feel as though the symptoms add up to that, as I've not seen a misfire in C7 or C8, I don't appear to be burning too much oil, and I do not feel like I am losing power. The plugs and wires are all new (per seller), but I am about to pull them to make sure they aren't Bosch plugs (will update). I am not entirely familiar with Dodge or their trucks, so any input is welcomed and appreciated.
Update: Plugs are Champion Copper Plus (RC12YC)
Last edited by jalbin; 03-30-2017 at 05:56 PM. Reason: UPDATE
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Oil pressure is probably just the sensor. That is typical behavior for a failed one.
You can have a blown plenum, and NOT have the oil consumption. It sure wouldn't hurt to check, because, the rest of the symptoms are in line with that problem.
How many gallon gas tank?
See what your "new" parts look like, and especially how the plug wires are ran. There is a TSB in the FAQ section here for proper wire routing.
There probably should have been a tube from the valve cover, to the back of the air cleaner......
Welcome to DF!
You can have a blown plenum, and NOT have the oil consumption. It sure wouldn't hurt to check, because, the rest of the symptoms are in line with that problem.
How many gallon gas tank?
See what your "new" parts look like, and especially how the plug wires are ran. There is a TSB in the FAQ section here for proper wire routing.
There probably should have been a tube from the valve cover, to the back of the air cleaner......
Welcome to DF!
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Oil pressure is probably just the sensor. That is typical behavior for a failed one.
You can have a blown plenum, and NOT have the oil consumption. It sure wouldn't hurt to check, because, the rest of the symptoms are in line with that problem.
How many gallon gas tank?
See what your "new" parts look like, and especially how the plug wires are ran. There is a TSB in the FAQ section here for proper wire routing.
There probably should have been a tube from the valve cover, to the back of the air cleaner......
Welcome to DF!
You can have a blown plenum, and NOT have the oil consumption. It sure wouldn't hurt to check, because, the rest of the symptoms are in line with that problem.
How many gallon gas tank?
See what your "new" parts look like, and especially how the plug wires are ran. There is a TSB in the FAQ section here for proper wire routing.
There probably should have been a tube from the valve cover, to the back of the air cleaner......
Welcome to DF!
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Hhhmmm... If you are getting oil into the air filter housing, that implies the PCV system isn't working as it should. That line is supposed to draw air INTO the engine, not out of it.
Definitely re-route your wires. Follow the TSB, see if that doesn't make a difference. (I bet it will )
If you just replace the gasket on the plenum plate, make sure to get shorter bolts. Or, just cut the unthread nubs off the ends.
Definitely re-route your wires. Follow the TSB, see if that doesn't make a difference. (I bet it will )
If you just replace the gasket on the plenum plate, make sure to get shorter bolts. Or, just cut the unthread nubs off the ends.
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So after replacing the plenum gasket and intake bolts (as well as all the other gaskets required for the job) I still have the same issue. I have rerun the plug wires with no improvement. The oil pressure gauge reads zero unless accelerating, but that is most likely just a failed sensor. I am replacing the upstream O2 sensor today, but I'm running out of ideas. Where else could I have a vacuum leak so drastic as to cause a rough idle? If it isn't a vacuum leak, what else could it be? I would think compression issues, maybe, but for it happen on a bunch of different cyclinders all at once?
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It starts fine and runs fine while in park or stopped. You can kinda maybe sorta feel the intermittent miss at a stop, but that would be right from the get-go. The only real noticeable roughness is when you go to roll forward or backward in idle. It is fine while driving and when at a complete stop or in park.