Contradicting info on 94 Dakota Trans interchange
#1
Contradicting info on 94 Dakota Trans interchange
I'll try to be brief. I have a 94 Dakota 5.2 4x4 w/dead tranny. I have gone to local u-pullit for replacement trans and they tell me it has to come out of a 94 or 95 Dakota 4x4. I also found the drivetrain site which contradicts u-pullit as well as the two Dodge dealers I called who contradict each other as well as u-pullit and drivetrain. However the article on the evoulution of the a518 on Hemmings seems to agree with the drivetrain site. So who's correct? Does it matter if my donor is a 95 Grand Cherokee or a 96 V8 Dakota? Bottom line: Does it matter what model or year I get my tranny out of as long as its a 46rh with 4x4 tail will they all be identical?
Thanks
Ridler
Thanks
Ridler
#2
With the 4x4 transmission, it shouldn't matter. The 2wd transmissions are different between '93 and '94 in that they got an all electronic speed sensor instead of the previous cable driven speedometer, but the 4x4's speed sensor is in the transfer case. You can get the transmission out of a Dakota, Grand Cherokee, Ram, Ram van, etc. It doesn't matter.
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Except for 1996. You can't use a 1996 transmission in a 1995 or below truck. And you can't use a 1995 and below transmission in a 1996 truck. (1996 can however use a transmission from 1997 to 2003-ish when they got rid of the 42/46RE transmissions)
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Except for 1996. You can't use a 1996 transmission in a 1995 or below truck. And you can't use a 1995 and below transmission in a 1996 truck. (1996 can however use a transmission from 1997 to 2003-ish when they got rid of the 42/46RE transmissions)
Last edited by dodgerules86; 09-25-2009 at 02:52 AM. Reason: add little bit at end
#3
FWIW, I put a A500 from a 1992 4x4 behind a 318 in a 95 4x4. it worked just fine, the only thing is I wouldn't pound on the truck. But the way I looked at it, Chrysler put and A500 in a full size van, and the trans I got was rebuilt with only 20,000 befor the truck was wrecked. I got the wrecked truck for $200 and the truck with bad trans for $300. I sold some parts and scrapped the rest for a net of $400 so in all I was into the two trucks for $100 then which I sold the 95 for $1500 so nice profit $1400.
#4
Thats fine if putting an A500 behind a 318 has worked for you, but thats not advise you want to give to someone else. The A500 was never designed from the factory to handle the torque that the 318 puts out, so you're basically advising someone to put in a transmission that will fail sooner than it needs to.
The only way to get an A500 "318 safe" is to rebuild it with performance clutches and a shift kit so the extra torque doesn't burn the clutch packs out.
The only way to get an A500 "318 safe" is to rebuild it with performance clutches and a shift kit so the extra torque doesn't burn the clutch packs out.
#5
Thanks a bunch. so far so good. One of the aforementioned dealers said some of the 46rh's had different output splines. They all were the same on the transfer case sheet at drivetrain. A 46Rh is a 46rh is a 46rh made sense to me but the dealers and u-pullit said otherwise. I was just looking for confirmation either way. BTW, how can I tell a 42 from a 46 by sight w/out decoding the stamp? will i only find a 46 behind a V8?
Thanks again
Ridler
Thanks again
Ridler
#6
#7
Thanks a bunch. so far so good. One of the aforementioned dealers said some of the 46rh's had different output splines. They all were the same on the transfer case sheet at drivetrain. A 46Rh is a 46rh is a 46rh made sense to me but the dealers and u-pullit said otherwise. I was just looking for confirmation either way. BTW, how can I tell a 42 from a 46 by sight w/out decoding the stamp? will i only find a 46 behind a V8?
Thanks again
Ridler
Thanks again
Ridler
Last edited by 95_318SLT; 09-24-2009 at 05:11 PM.
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#8
yep, that might be true but the internals of an A500 (1-3 gears) are exactly the same as the 904/999 which was offered behind many a 318 for years even in a full sized van as was the A500 behind a 318 in a full size van. So really if you don't beat on the thing, it will last just fine.
#9
With the 4x4 transmission, it shouldn't matter. The 2wd transmissions are different between '93 and '94 in that they got an all electronic speed sensor instead of the previous cable driven speedometer, but the 4x4's speed sensor is in the transfer case. You can get the transmission out of a Dakota, Grand Cherokee, Ram, Ram van, etc. It doesn't matter.
#10
I mean I was just listing the vehicles that the a518 was offered in... although it sounds like from what 22dodge said that the ram van has the a500, so that one might be off the list. But as long as it's a 4x4 a518, it can replace a 4x4 a518.