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Old 08-13-2010, 12:28 AM
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can someone help, I am lost on this. the gauges stopped working last night.

I have a 97 3.9L dakota, auto trans, 4x4
tilt-steering wheel, power locks, and windows just in case this helps

this is what happened. traffic was stopped, the truck was running in park with the air condish running, temp outside was about 100 F. I left the truck to get a better view of what was going on. was gone about 15 to 20 minutes. when I got back the truck was still running, the gauges were not working, low fuel light was on, airbag light was on, the odometer was flashing.

I shut the truck off, checked all fuses, all good, reseated the relays under the hood. started the truck, gauges still did not work, same lights were on and the odometer was still flashing. I came on home, searched the web then did this

disconnected the negative battery terminal,
reseated all relays and checked fuses again
unbolted the wire harness under dash left of the steering column and reseated it
reconnected the negative terminal after a little cleaning (it was 11 ish and i was working in the dark)
started the truck and with the same results as before.

on my way to work today started the trk and all gauges worked.
the airbag light was on. the low fuel was off.
1/2 miles later the airbag light went off.
22 miles later the gauges bombed out again and the OD was flashing

when I got to work found this thread

https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2nd-gen...bag-light.html

and followed the steps in this post

https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2218875-post43.html

THANKS CMCKENNA for the steps

cmckenna steps are in black
my results are in red
Originally Posted by cmckenna View Post
(1) Begin the test with the ignition switch in the Off position.
(2) Depress the odometer/trip odometer switch button.
(3) While still holding the odometer/trip odometer switch button depressed, turn the ignition switch to the On position, but do not start the engine.
(4) Keep the odometer/trip odometer switch button depressed for about ten seconds, until CHEC appears in the odometer display, then release the
odometer/trip odometer switch button.
(5) A series of three-digit numeric failure messages may appear in the odometer display, depending upon the failure mode. If a failure message appears, refer to the Instrument Cluster Failure Message chart for the description and proper correction. If no failure message appears, the actuator test will proceed.
900
920
921
940
950
999
airbag light on
test stopped
had to push trip switch to continue

did this 3 times and got the same results each time
Originally Posted by cmckenna View Post
(6) The instrument cluster will begin the Vacuum Fluorescent Display (VFD) walking segment test. This test will require the operator to visually inspect each VFD segment as it is displayed to determine a pass or fail condition. First, all of the segments will be illuminated at once; then, each individual segment of the VFD will be illuminated in sequence. If any segment in the display fails to illuminate, repeat the test to confirm the failure. If the failure is confirmed, replace the faulty instrument cluster.
that went OK
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Following completion of the VFD walking segment test, the actuator
test will proceed as described in Step 7.

(7) The instrument cluster will perform a bulb check of each indicator that the instrument cluster circuitry controls. If the wait-to-start indicator does not illuminate during this test, the instrument cluster should be removed. However, check that the incandescent bulb is not faulty and that the bulb holder is properly installed on the instrument cluster electronic circuit board before considering instrument cluster replacement. If the bulb and bulb holder check OK, replace the faulty instrument cluster. Each of the remaining instrument cluster circuitry controlled indicators except the cruise indicator are illuminated by a Light Emitting Diode (LED). If an
LED or the cruise indicator in the VFD, fails to illuminate during this test, the instrument cluster must be replaced. Following the bulb check test, the actuator test will proceed as described in Step 8.
from what I could tell every idiot light came on. maybe not oil light don't remember.
the wait-to-start light did not come on but i do NOT have a diesel engine.
the cruise light did come on (first time i seen that light, my cruse doesn't work either for some reason, that's another thread later)

Originally Posted by cmckenna View Post
(8) The instrument cluster will perform a gauge actuator test. In this test the instrument cluster circuitry positions each of the gauge needles at three different calibration points, then returns the gauge needles to their relaxed positions. If an individual gauge does not respond properly, or does not respond at all during the gauge actuator test, the instrument cluster should be removed. However, check that the gauge terminal pins are properly inserted through the spring-clip terminal pin receptacles on the instrument cluster electronic circuit board before considering instrument cluster replacement. If the gauge terminal connections are OK, replace the faulty instrument cluster.
all gauges went thru the range
Originally Posted by cmckenna View Post
(9) The actuator test is now completed. The instrument cluster will automatically exit the self-diagnostic mode and return to normal operation at the completion of the test, if the ignition switch is turned to the Off position during the test, or if a vehicle speed message indicating that the vehicle is moving is received from the PCM on the CCD data bus during the test.
no message, just dings from the fasten seat belt dinger
Originally Posted by cmckenna View Post
(10) Go back to Step 1 to repeat the test, if required.
all the way home the gauges did not work and OD still was flashing. but the trk seemed to run OK

where do I go from here

thanks in advance and sorry for the long read
 

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Old 08-13-2010, 03:54 AM
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https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2nd-gen...g-light-3.html

post 21 in the thread was the first to have the op run this test.just didnt copy n paste IT from the FSM.i use italics with all my copy n paste so theres no confusion with plagiarism.in the mean time.
 
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Old 08-13-2010, 06:08 AM
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Yes stands2p, you did tell the poster to do the sweep test.
cmckenna listed all the steps.
cbr900rr19 said he did it in the first post of that thread
Originally Posted by CBR900RR19 View Post
... I did the trip check and get 900 920 921 940 950 and 999. ...
https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2203544-post1.html

but that still doesn't ME out.
 
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:13 PM
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from https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2212583-post23.html


Originally Posted by stands2p View Post
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heres the correct def of those CCD codes.

900 CCD DATA BUS NOT OPERATIONAL(theres your no data bus code)
920 cluster not recieving a vehicle message from pcm
921 cluster not recieving distance pulse message from pcm
940 cluster not recieving airbag message from ACM
950 cluster not recieving ABS lamp message from CAB

the truck is talking to ya.follow what its talking about and the problem will be fixed.id like the op to do the actuator test again and log the codes.

stands2p,

I do not have access to a FSM. could you tell me what the 999 code is?

I was half asleep reading the other thread the other night and did NOT see YOUR post on the codes.
had 4hr sleep when making my last post.

if i insulted you i did not mean to. this is a public apology

KillerKilgore

edited: I did not know how to start the sweep test.
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Old 08-14-2010, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by KillerKilgore View Post
from https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2212583-post23.html





stands2p,

I do not have access to a FSM. could you tell me what the 999 code is?

I was half asleep reading the other thread the other night and did NOT see YOUR post on the codes.
had 4hr sleep when making my last post.

if i insulted you i did not mean to. this is a public apology

KillerKilgore

edited: I did not know how to start the sweep test.
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INSTRUMENT CLUSTER FAILURE MESSAGE
Message Description Correction

110 A failure has been identified in the instrument
cluster CPU, RAM, or EEPROM.
1. Replace the faulty instrument cluster.

900 The PCI data bus is not operational. 1. Check the PCI data bus connection at the
instrument cluster.
2. Check the instrument cluster fuses.
3. Check the PCI data bus functionality using a
DRBIIIT scan tool. Refer to the appropriate
diagnostic information.

920 The instrument cluster is not receiving a
vehicle speed message from the PCM.
1. Check the PCM software level and reflash if
required.
2. Use a DRBIIIT scan tool to verify that the
vehicle speed message is being sent by the
PCM.

921 The instrument cluster is not receiving a
distance pulse message from the PCM.
1. Check the PCM software level and reflash if
required.
2. Use a DRBIIIT scan tool to verify that the
distance pulse message is being sent by the
PCM.

940 The instrument cluster is not receiving an
airbag lamp-on message from the ACM.
1. Check the PCI data bus connection at the
ACM.
2. Check the ACM fuse.

950 The instrument cluster is not receiving an ABS
lamp-on message from the CAB.
1. Check the PCI data bus connection at the
CAB.
2. Check the CAB fuse.

960 The instrument cluster is not receiving a
PRND21 message from the TCM.
1. Check the PCI data bus connection at the
TCM.
2. Check the TCM fuse.

999 An error has been discovered. 1. Record the failure message.
2. Depress the odometer/trip odometer switch
button to continue the Actuator Test.
 
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Old 08-14-2010, 12:50 AM
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HTH do i check all this ...... stuff.
 
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Old 08-14-2010, 01:00 AM
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frankly, it's kinda starting to sound to me, like your dash is just flat out failing. Usually, when anything involving "PCI data bus connection" comes up, especially with that many issues, it's not a pretty result.
 
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Old 08-14-2010, 09:32 AM
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OK, what else am i going to brake if i drive it like that for a month or 3 til i get a working set of gauge?

because, the trk seems to run fine. i have GPS to show speed and miles traveled. could use that to guess-t-mate fuel level.

thanks,

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Old 08-15-2010, 12:30 PM
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OK here what I know,

key off

multimeter set to ohms

negative side of multimeter to metal for steering column

have 1 ohm short on pin 4 to frame ground and pin 5 to frame ground of CAV Cluster C1

set meter to DC volts

have 12.20 volts from pin 6 to frame ground on CAV Cluster-C1

have 0 volts from pin 2 to frame ground on CAV cluster-C1

have 11.64 volts from pin 9 to pin 10 on CAV cluster-C1

KEY ON

have 12.19 volts from pin 2 to frame ground on CAV cluster-C1

have 12.20 volts from pin 9 to pin 10 on CAV cluster-C1


WHERE DO I GO from here?
 
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:13 PM
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thought i fixed it but didn't.

strange thing i noticed that i can work the key switch and the amp gauge will work at times and then not a times.

is there something dealing with the key switch that could cause this problem?
 

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