'99 3.6L - Shifts at high RPM
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'99 3.6L - Shifts at high RPM
Hello, this is my first post. I've been searching the web about this issue but I have some questions.
My 1999 3.6L Dakota shifts at about 3200 RPM. It doesn't seem like it's quite every time from 1st to 2nd (very often though), but the next one is every time. So my most common speeds, from 30-40 MPH my RPM's are between 2000 and 3200 until it shifts around 40 MPH. Driving 35 MPH at 3000 RPM gets old.
After some research I've been looking at the TPS and the TV cable.
So my TV cable is super loose. It didn't move much at all with the throttle, but does a little bit towards the end of the swing. Even though it's contrary to my symptoms (as far as I know), I decided to make it tighter... I moved it in quite a bit, but it's still pretty damn loose. Maybe it's a little better, but the TV cable still barely moves and only towards the end of my throttle swing.
Am I correct that the TV cable should be moving during the whole throttle swing?
That adjustment didn't effect the shifting at all, by the way.
I also tested my TPS and it reads .5 ohms closed throttle to 2.5 ohms wide open. I can kinda force the throttle to move more and it'll go up to 2.8 or something. The voltage swing seems pretty even. I'm pretty tempted to try another TPS since that's low according to what I've read (should be 4.5 I think). I've also read that as long as the voltage swing is even then it's OK.
Should I bother with a new TPS?
Any insight would be great. I've already learned a ton just reading old posts.
Thanks!
My 1999 3.6L Dakota shifts at about 3200 RPM. It doesn't seem like it's quite every time from 1st to 2nd (very often though), but the next one is every time. So my most common speeds, from 30-40 MPH my RPM's are between 2000 and 3200 until it shifts around 40 MPH. Driving 35 MPH at 3000 RPM gets old.
After some research I've been looking at the TPS and the TV cable.
So my TV cable is super loose. It didn't move much at all with the throttle, but does a little bit towards the end of the swing. Even though it's contrary to my symptoms (as far as I know), I decided to make it tighter... I moved it in quite a bit, but it's still pretty damn loose. Maybe it's a little better, but the TV cable still barely moves and only towards the end of my throttle swing.
Am I correct that the TV cable should be moving during the whole throttle swing?
That adjustment didn't effect the shifting at all, by the way.
I also tested my TPS and it reads .5 ohms closed throttle to 2.5 ohms wide open. I can kinda force the throttle to move more and it'll go up to 2.8 or something. The voltage swing seems pretty even. I'm pretty tempted to try another TPS since that's low according to what I've read (should be 4.5 I think). I've also read that as long as the voltage swing is even then it's OK.
Should I bother with a new TPS?
Any insight would be great. I've already learned a ton just reading old posts.
Thanks!
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I'm realizing now that it's not so much that the TV cable is loose, it's that it slides around in the plastic part that is connected to the throttle body lever.
So when the lever is moved the cable doesn't move at all because the end is moving in that plastic piece, then when it finally catches towards the end of the lever throw, it'll move like half an inch maybe.
Could this be my issue?
I could set the cable so that the end is already caught in the plastic piece before the lever is moved, which would move it immediately with the lever, but then when the lever returns wouldn't the cable just slide back in the plastic piece...
Let me know if this makes sense.
So when the lever is moved the cable doesn't move at all because the end is moving in that plastic piece, then when it finally catches towards the end of the lever throw, it'll move like half an inch maybe.
Could this be my issue?
I could set the cable so that the end is already caught in the plastic piece before the lever is moved, which would move it immediately with the lever, but then when the lever returns wouldn't the cable just slide back in the plastic piece...
Let me know if this makes sense.
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Should I be happy with that or should I spray some PB blaster on the clip and/or grease the cable?
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When I tried tightening my TV cable at the engine side before I figured out the real issue, it felt like I moved the little black nipple into the square bracket thing.
To loosen it, am I supposed to be moving the black nipple thing back out... I'm having trouble figuring out how I would do that.
Or, am I just trying to pull the actual cable out, not worrying about the nipple thing?
Essentially it's is running good, but I still feel like it's ever so slightly high RPM shifting, so I might as well try to get it back to normal.
Should just do the reset technique of flooring it while the clip is out and call it a day?
I'll probably leave it as is for now at least, but any insight into that would great.
To loosen it, am I supposed to be moving the black nipple thing back out... I'm having trouble figuring out how I would do that.
Or, am I just trying to pull the actual cable out, not worrying about the nipple thing?
Essentially it's is running good, but I still feel like it's ever so slightly high RPM shifting, so I might as well try to get it back to normal.
Should just do the reset technique of flooring it while the clip is out and call it a day?
I'll probably leave it as is for now at least, but any insight into that would great.
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